This patch is waste time 1.20

**Zahak** · 12-20-2011 01:47 PM

Why are you all having so many problems with the trees? Three people can kill those NM's. Maybe your taking too many people. Leave the bad players at Turning leaf and only let players who know how to do this quest right go forth! xD Players at crystal will still get the key items.

**SwordCoheir** · 12-20-2011 05:44 PM

Trees themselves aren't an issue, it's the fact that all the aggressive little mobs like raptors, spriggans, birds, and whatnot link the trees when in a group. Well that and it's a pain to see around them.

**DGMart** · 12-20-2011 06:32 PM

1 key item from a selected NM from the quest giver to the party leader. That's all! Doing all 5 is ridiculous.

**Teknoman** · 12-20-2011 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by Lienn

The same as always...dev team screw up, he comes, apologize, say he's human or that he's tired and then they screw up even more. 1.18 was terrible, 1.19 worse than 1.18 and now 1.20 even worse than 1.19.

Seems like the dev team X-Mas will actally be just as good as the playerbase...drinking and getting miserable while looking how the game die day after day.

One week for SWTOR, 3 weeks for billing...i guess even if they pull jobs to 1.20a the game might not start 2012 much better than it is now. Bringing names of actions, places, mechanics, some old icons and animations will not make the game better...maybe if Yoshida actually had knowledge regarding FF he would be able to look foward instead of being so worried about past games.

Wow thats really a dark way of looking at things...and the content/adjustments added so far have been no where near terrible. Also as far as SWTOR goes, alot of people are saying it just feels like WoW except in the Star Wars universe. Besides, alot of the current players are happy with the changes, and most people interested are looking forward to future updates even if they arent playing. The man is human, and as always things require a little more tweaking after release...but as far as team screw ups? Not in the least bit. Kinda over exaggerating.

And the bolded section really makes no sense. Most of the player base will either be still attempting Ifrit, messing around with dungeons, tribe strongholds and moogles. There are a decent amount of returning players that arent level 50 yet and have alot to do.

**Zahak** · 12-20-2011 09:37 PM

Doing all five doesn't take too long. When you come up to the wolves just have the Gladiator Sent. Rampart and everything else and walk past them to the Great Oak.

**Venat** · 12-21-2011 12:06 AM

Remove some of the trees like halve. Also make there argoo range shorter. There is quite too many trees. Replace the argoo type enemies like wolfs and birds and raptors with none argoo enemies.

Remove the NMs and add ??? in there spawn points. Move the Boar or Malbero to the Empty area in by the Aeth Node.

Doing all these would make the quest much easyer.

**SwordCoheir** · 12-21-2011 01:43 AM

I would be content if they just made it where the trees didn't link with anything else. Handling a weak little add isn't really an issue, but having half your party one shotted because a springdingle was passing by is pretty BS.

**Lienn** · 12-21-2011 02:55 AM

Originally Posted by Teknoman

Wow thats really a dark way of looking at things...and the content/adjustments added so far have been no where near terrible. Also as far as SWTOR goes, alot of people are saying it just feels like WoW except in the Star Wars universe. Besides, alot of the current players are happy with the changes, and most people interested are looking forward to future updates even if they arent playing. The man is human, and as always things require a little more tweaking after release...but as far as team screw ups? Not in the least bit. Kinda over exaggerating.

And the bolded section really makes no sense. Most of the player base will either be still attempting Ifrit, messing around with dungeons, tribe strongholds and moogles. There are a decent amount of returning players that arent level 50 yet and have alot to do.

LOL

Also as far as SWTOR goes, alot of people are saying it just feels like WoW except in the Star Wars universe.

Interesting that AFAIK WoW is a successful MMO and star wars is a even stronger brand than Warcraft or FF...So you really think only FF has blind fanboys that would buy it just by the game name? Nop, it's not. SW has a hell of a fanatic fanbase.

Besides, alot of the current players are happy with the changes, and most people interested are looking forward to future updates even if they arent playing.

Oh, yeah...this is why from the said 30k current active players (rounding up the numbers ppl counted at other topics) the number of likes of changes never go past 750-800. That's ~2.5% of playerbase openly supporting the changes. Also, ppl being happy with the changes even if they aren't playing? The level of stupidity of this phrase is absurd! a) If they were happy they would be playing. b) It's expected from someone to try a feature before liking it...and they're not playing so...

There are a decent amount of returning players that arent level 50 yet and have alot to do.

Oh, Yeah!! How could i forget those 750k players that quit because they wanted to pay to play, only coming back when billing start! My bad!

If you really support the game you should be pointing the flaws, not praising the effort...and when 2.0 time comes and the game fail again, blame yourself and the other white knight fanboys whose always "praised the effort" and made they think the game was good.

**Teknoman** · 12-21-2011 03:39 AM

Im not really praising the effort, just saying its really not as bad as you're making it out to be. And I know SW has a pretty fanatic fanbase, but I also think people are getting kinda tired of games that just seem like WoW clones with a different skin. Not knocking WoW in the least bit, but its kinda like the way things were back when Street Fighter II or Mortal Kombat 1 released (other games releasing trying to hit the same success by playing all too similar to the lead title in the genre).

And dont forget that not everyone playing visits the forums...but there are people at other forums saying they'll wait to 2.0 to really get invested again, but they also think the current changes look great, or at least alot better than what was there at first (not that is much of a stretch, but still). Most of that is just from reading about the changes via updates,impressions from other players/watching videos of said content and fixes/additions.

**Estellios** · 12-21-2011 05:42 AM

^^^
Lienn is a whacko that thinks original FF14 was amazing and much better than anything the current dev team has done and bitches about every single little thing that gets changed/added, and for some reason still plays. I'd take anything s/he says with a grain of salt.

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