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  1. #301
    Player Sesera's Avatar
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    Komi Shouko
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    Those scenarios happen like twice in a year....
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  2. #302
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    Miste's Avatar
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    Miste Vaer
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    I am an old school from FF11 and I do not like healer to dps as I believed healer should reserve mp for emergency. There is no death penalty of of current mmorpg all thanks to WoW. When Eureka is here and there is death penalty of losing exp and de-lvl, I will lay back and laugh at those who believed healer should dps.
    The DPSing healers are just gonna be laughing at you while they heal and dps and not run out of MP.

    I played FFXI as well and there are huge obvious differences between FFXI and FFXIV.

    If you actually played both I am confused how you are completely unaware of how different healers and MP worked in FFXI compared to FFXIV.

    The battle system in FFXI is completely different, the MP regeneration and management in FFXI is completely different, the battle pace in FFXI is completely different.

    In FFXIV you can easily DPS as a healer and heal and also save MP for emergencies. Just because you cast some DPS spells doesn't mean you won't have MP for healing and/or emergency healing in this game.

    I don't get why so many people seem to think MP is an issue and/or use it as a reason why healers should never DPS.....MP is not an issue. It's like they think if a healer casts even one DPS spell it takes all their MP away and then you have nothing to heal with lol.

    I don't know what game they are playing but it isn't FFXIV obviously since I cast DPS spells on healer all the time yet still have MP for healing and for emergency healing.
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  3. #303
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    ElazulHP's Avatar
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    Inigo Meowtoya
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    Sargatanas
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    It's impossible for a healer to win this arguement. Either we're DPS'ing too much or too little so i'm just sick of hearing it. Healers are always the scapegoat for bad players. Nevermind that BLM that just sits in the puddles soaking AOE or god forbid the tank actually pops cool downs... nope it's the healers fault! lol... it's just so ridiculous. How about this. Did you live? Yes? Great move on. If not then examine exactly why. It's not always the healers fault. Any damage they do on top of keeping everyone alive is icing on the cake.
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    Last edited by ElazulHP; 03-09-2018 at 03:40 AM.

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  5. #304
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    Maystar05's Avatar
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    May Star
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanilleFang View Post
    @Maystar05: Healers have no issues with MP anymore and outside spamming Holy/Gravity/Miasma II a healer should never be low on MP. Conserving MP is bad play since healers have oGCDs and MP management abilities that are core to healing and Dpsing properly.
    I was just trying to tell you what non-healers are thinking. Great, It's nice to know in a perfect world all the healers out there will never run of MP...even with multiple raising.
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    Last edited by Maystar05; 03-09-2018 at 03:49 AM.

  6. #305
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sesera View Post
    Those scenarios happen like twice in a year....
    It's just examples. You are missing the point. I was just trying to say other people don't care who's fault it really is. The healers were asked to stop dps often because it's just "seems" like the quickest fix.
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  7. #306
    Player Sesera's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maystar05 View Post
    I am just telling you all what bad players are thinking. Great, It's nice to know in a perfect world all the healers out there will never run of MP...even with multiple raising.
    Fixed that for you.
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  8. #307
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sesera View Post
    Fixed that for you.
    For non-healer players we don't know how healer's MP work, but healers on here seem to be saying that they can't run out of MP. Good/Bad non-healers can only believe what we are being told, so I don't know why you want to change it to "bad players".
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  9. #308
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    Texa Yuu
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    Diabolos
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Maystar05 View Post
    I was just trying to tell you what non-healers are thinking. Great, It's nice to know in a perfect world all the healers out there will never run of MP...even with multiple raising.
    As a Scholar main I think it's pretty rare for us to fully run out of MP because we can always use dissipation for emergency MP drains and a temporary healing boost, but trying to keep a squishy undergeared tank who won't use cooldowns alive on AST while DPS gets hit by everything (or as that can also be referred to "a Rabanastre run") if you're not lucky enough to draw ewers is like playing as a bucket with a big ol' leaky hole at the bottom.
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  10. #309
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    Quote Originally Posted by Texa View Post
    As a Scholar main I think it's pretty rare for us to fully run out of MP because we can always use dissipation for emergency MP drains and a temporary healing boost, but trying to keep a squishy undergeared tank who won't use cooldowns alive on AST while DPS gets hit by everything (or as that can also be referred to "a Rabanastre run") //OMIT//
    I used to play white mage in vanilla days and got to lv 50 and stopped playing the game. Haven't tried healer yet after returning to the game, but least for me, healer is definitely the most stressful job or maybe I was just not good at it. Lots of people like to blame healers for everything, but I am sure lots of people appreciate healers too. I for one almost always recommend healers because I know it can get quite hectic. I had a Royal Menagerie run where a healer healed through it solo, so I do believe healers can have a lot of MP.
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  11. #310
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    Coratanni's Avatar
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    Whispering Whiskers
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    Goblin
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    White Mage Lv 100
    The only reason why a White Mage would run out of MP now is if they have to raise multiple alliances. I say this as someone who is in Savage with two different White Mage characters.
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