Waved or Reduced MP cost for Magic combo's

[Chardrizard]

Well as a lvl 50 class you want to use your most power spell don't you ?

Whats the point in having a spell/skill if its "not to be used"

The whole point of Combos is to string them together.

Not everything have to be combo-ed every single time. Sh*t is situational, Thundaga is fine for rushing kills or when you have Parsimony up, it just not reccomended for a long drawn out fight.

THMs that only knows how to nuke (when THM has so many enfeebles) is as bad as DPSs classes that only knows how to WS and doesn't know how to take care of themselves.

[Griss]

the only time I touch thundaga is with parsimony and dark seal up.

Kind of funny to use necrogenisis with it and watch my hp go from almost zero to almost full.

[Chardrizard]

THM job at Moogle is usually to burn down GLA and MRD moogle fast, because they have higher physical defense. Not everything have to be about winning parser.

Also at last phase, aoe bind become extremely useful.

[Buuul]

THM job at Moogle is usually to burn down GLA and MRD moogle fast, because they have higher physical defense. Not everything have to be about winning parser.

Also at last phase, aoe bind become extremely useful.

I'm the last to care about parse results, but they do give a general idea of how much your contributing (if pure damage = contributing). I agree that the bind and heavy effects from the Blizzard line are very valuable in the last phase of the Moogle fight, regardless of the damage output.

[Elcura]

My Moogle parses are around 35-40k (I'm experimenting with gear and I haven't got all the materia I need yet), while Archers do around 50k+ each and CNJs about 10-15k (Stone ftw). By the end of Phase one, my damage is around 15k, which is usually tied with the archers at that point (Phase 2 the gap widens).

The only time I run out of MP at moogle is when I get raped by MP drain. Otherwise I can keep 1000-2000+ MP easily during phase 2. During phase 1 I have full MP by the time Memento Moogle is used. Blizzara and Blizzard are useful for the enfeebling effects, not the damage.

THMs are good because Moogles need to die quickly, and the second phase of the fight an instant Thundara for 800-900 damage to kill a moogle before it gets a cure is vital.

THMs aren't likely to win parsers, but if all you look at is pure damage and not utility, then you're picking classes half blind.

I think a shorter cooldown on Parsimony would be ideal though, knock off 20-30 s.

I would like it if it matched Dark Seal's cooldown, but it isn't really necessary. But I wouldn't complain if this was the case. And if SE alleviated the MP cost for magic combos, I wouldn't mind either.

I'd actually like to main the strongest class in the game. Because that's what THM would be without high MP costs.

[Buuul]

THMs aren't likely to win parsers, but if all you look at is pure damage and not utility, then you're picking classes half blind.

Agreed - the ability to take down the BLM and WHM moogles before they start exploding/healing everybody is essential, even if the overall damage is lower than most. Burst damage is needed for parts of the fight.

[Lucifer]

This is without the MP management utility as well.
People should take these things in to consideration. You could go without Thundaga and conserve MP for longer fights; or you can use Thundaga to quickly dispatch mobs that would otherwise make the fight one-sided.

Seems reasonable.

[syntaxlies]

Updated

After playing 1.20 THM I love it, but the MP cost for combo's is a bit ridiculous if you ask me. I feel that if melee get free TP for combo's it should be the same for mages with mp, or at least reduce the mp cost down to -25% for first and -50% for the second spell in the combo.

Right now the combo for Thunder 210MP> Thundara 378MP > Thundaga 714= 1133MP if this was at least reduced to 25% for the first spell and -50% for the second the spells the overall mp consumption would be equal to: 851MP. Also two step combos for the Thunder chain would end up 494MP.

Then for an combo with Fire 294 > Fira 504 > Firaga 714 = 1512MP, reducing Fira to 25% and Firara to 50% of the cost would make this combo total: 1029MP. Also an two step combo for Fire would be 672MP.

Please like this post or respond to this thread so we can get feedback.

when i first saw my mp pool i was whoa, then i saw 780mp spells and was like whoa!!

[Kaeko]

Eagerly awaiting the state of this thread a week from now when 4+ THM is the cookie cutter build on Ifrit.

[Molly_Millions]

Eagerly awaiting the state of this thread a week from now when 4+ THM is the cookie cutter build on Ifrit.

We're already doing THM burns on Ifrit.