DPS classes numbers and ranking posted on reddit

[Neela]

uhm have read that those numbers are based on trial not on a dummy? just sayin....
but yeah raid scenario is another level indeed, can't wait for the worlds first experiences - most probably there will be shifts ya ^^

[Vincentv]

You crazy if you think DRG beats NIN. TA is one of the most borderline broken skills in the game.

I agree TA is very strong. That said dragoons have 3 buffs (count increase to others as own DPS) to compensate. 1) Disembowel worth around 230 for BRD. 2) Battle Littany worth around 220 for the group assuming crit only 170% (only added value to group, c not drg,likely off). 3) Dragoon Sight buffs dragoon 10% and I will assume SAM 5% with around 80. That's how I came up with 4,600. Again napkin math and may be lower or higher.

As for Ninja, unless they received another group buff, Trick Attack is worth around 300 (note is worth around 370, but 70 of that already counted in the NINs numbers from the parse since they provide it themselves).

However no BRD/MCH will easily cause NIN>DRG. One again, napkin numbers, grain of salt and all that. Real numbers will probably put them quite close.

[Brinzy]

uhm have read that those numbers are based on trial not on a dummy? just sayin....
but yeah raid scenario is another level indeed, can't wait for the worlds first experiences - most probably there will be shifts ya ^^

I got ahead of myself and didn't link what I was referencing.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...IC&sh=da1056b4

It makes more sense to go off of this than off of limited data from a trial, if only because these numbers are what SE came up with and don't take party composition into account. I don't think those other values really mean too much.

[RaizeGraymalkin]

I'm so glad I don't give a shit about things like this. People get way too up in arms over this.

[Gallus]

how is disembowel worth around 230 DPS for a BRD? Those numbers show that BRD at its peak does 3800 dmg, 5% of 3800 is 190 not 230, and if I remember well BRD dots (which are a big part of their damage) do not get boosted by disembowel, so we are easily talking about 160 or 170 at best, not 230.

[Revanslave]

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True, that could change things. I guess my point is every class changed and overall it didn't suddenly become the worst class to play like people seemed to think. I like some changes and dislike some, but overall I still enjoy this class and still can mow down hordes of enemies.

[Neela]

I got ahead of myself and didn't link what I was referencing.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...IC&sh=da1056b4

oh i see - my bad than

[Brinzy]

Yeeeah, I don't think I could say worst class to play after seeing some other changes. I can feel the Bane gutting, but other things I think I'll just have to wait until I have more gear on to see how it feels.

[Vincentv]

how is disembowel worth around 230 DPS for a BRD? Those numbers show that BRD at its peak does 3800 dmg, 5% of 3800 is 190 not 230, and if I remember well BRD dots (which are a big part of their damage) do not get boosted by disembowel, so we are easily talking about 160 or 170 at best, not 230.

Disembowel is a 5% Piercing Debuff, but actual damage increase is closer to 6% because of the way boss defenses work.

[Riotpersona]

You also need to consider that SAM also brings the slashing debuff which, looking at current figures, honestly probably brings more raid dps than disembowel.