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    Neophyte's Avatar
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    Mim Silmaril
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    Phoenix
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Silverquick View Post
    Actually its closer to First place.

    I've already beaten BLMs out. Red Mage has movement. So you're doing a 1.8 casting time... and 10-12k damage... then moving... then another 10-12k damage... then moving...

    This entire list based on Training Dummies turned out to be complete bunk...
    This. I actually outdps my SMN with my Redmage even with 10ilvl lower weapon in Lakshmi Ex (unless I die because RDM->new DRG).
    Oh, and our Samurai as well and we're not that bad players at all.

    But maxbe that is also because of fight design that SMN suffers a bit more in that fight.
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    Last edited by Neophyte; 06-27-2017 at 10:33 PM.

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    Claire Pendragon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neophyte View Post
    because RDM->new DRG
    Im honestly surprised RDM would have tunnel visioning problems, since most of it can be done in your head, w/o looking at the UI, and since your double cast triggers the GCD, and you then have a GCD cast right aftyer, u get a rather large window to look at your UI, and surroundings, to double check your mental notes match up with ur actual stats/UI.
    (This is pretty mucht he sole reason I like RDM over all other DPS atm, though i havnt played them all)
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    CLAIRE PENDRAGON

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    Silverquick Fox
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    Quote Originally Posted by Claire_Pendragon View Post
    Im honestly surprised RDM would have tunnel visioning problems,
    Thats not really what he means...

    The problem with RDM is that when you jump in to do your melee combo which is seriously high DPS... sometimes you jump right into a tank buster and get one shotted. Much like a DRG....
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    Claire Pendragon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverquick View Post
    Thats not really what he means...

    The problem with RDM is that when you jump in to do your melee combo which is seriously high DPS... sometimes you jump right into a tank buster and get one shotted. Much like a DRG....
    Ah, gotcha. I actually have the reverse problem lol. I jump away, only to land in an AoE targeting a ranged person behind me lol. ( I wont usually dash in, unless i know i have enough time to finish the combo w/o being killed/interrupted.)
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    CLAIRE PENDRAGON

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    Richard Butte
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverquick View Post
    Thats not really what he means...

    The problem with RDM is that when you jump in to do your melee combo which is seriously high DPS... sometimes you jump right into a tank buster and get one shotted. Much like a DRG....
    Come on, now: no one jumps in and gets 1-shot like DRGs do...

    As for the discussion of raid utility, buffs that can do things like save a tank from a tank buster or a damage reduc that can be added to the healers' rotation of CD usage can definitely be more valuable than flat damage buffs.
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    Kaiser Sturmwind
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    Famfrit
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by RichardButte View Post
    Come on, now: no one jumps in and gets 1-shot like DRGs do...
    Not jump in. But RDMs are wonderful for doing it while jumping out off of a ledge in both trials and PvP right off cliffs to their deaths.
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    Lunar Emerald
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Claire_Pendragon View Post
    Im honestly surprised RDM would have tunnel visioning problems, since most of it can be done in your head, w/o looking at the UI, and since your double cast triggers the GCD, and you then have a GCD cast right aftyer, u get a rather large window to look at your UI, and surroundings, to double check your mental notes match up with ur actual stats/UI.
    (This is pretty mucht he sole reason I like RDM over all other DPS atm, though i havnt played them all)
    RDM requires you to constantly watch your mana gauge and to watch for procs.
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