Quote Originally Posted by KaiSunstrider View Post
Sure. The point still remains that Brd and Mch are the only classes that dont bring their own resistance/damage debuffs. Meaning that without considering any party wide buffs cds, both will do more damage just by being on a target with a DRG doing his thing than by themselves. Nin used to be this way with a warrior but now that the SF combo applies slashing, its no longer a "buff" for nins to be in a group with a warrior vs without.
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make but regardless the point is the difference between DRG and MNK/NIN let alone SAM is not going to be made up with piercing alone. Nor is dragon sight or Litany gonna make up the difference. Dragoon who has 3 offensive support abilitiees still provides less than the other 2 dps with 1 offensive support ability and still less than the dps that provides raw dps due to how low the personal damage of brd and mch are right now (and i'm talking about how disembowel affects them, so their utility doesn't apply here just their damage).

Maybe if you had both MCH and BRD in a single party with a DRG it might add up all things considered but who would run something like that when they could run MNK/NIN/CASTER (who are all strong atm) and BRD? BRD gains so little from a 5% disembowel that it isn't even a significant consideration like it used to be and MCH is in a tough spot right now period.

Looks like they were so fed up with the old meta they made it dog doodoo.