RDM: You only have yourself to blame, if you expected something else

[Arcana]

Not perfect but it is a good job to play.

[Nezia]

This reminds me of the time they added DHs to wow, since day 1 the forums were flooded with people saying they were disgusted by the mechanics of the class, yet these same people leveled DHs to max lvl and were determined to make it their mains even without enjoying a single thing about the class because: REASONS!

[Nezia]

I mean... I get it when people have played a class for a LONG time and some change occurs that causes the class to play in a way you dislike, but when they add a new class that you don't enjoy you can just... you know... not play it and move on? Oh... but that fancy hat is too strong...

[zylo1010]

Back in the old days of ffxi it was used to heal. You didn't get to melee unless you were solo. You were a refresh/enfeeble bitch that healed.

[Rinuko]

I love how RDM works right now. It so good dps! I love it

[TheChemicalCat]

Only complaint really is that Verwater and Verblizzard aren't a thing, and while Ice is kind of covered with Fleche and Contre Sixte I guess, Water seems to be like the most ignored element in this game. No Water spell for RDM, and they removed the damage off the only water aspected ability that WHM had.

[Rombus]

I think the true burning issue isn't how it was implemented, nor how those videos and announcements were -interpreted- but rather, this is the developer's envisionment for FF14's red mage. not FF5, nor ANY other FF. Samurai is a dps whereas in ff11 it was a tank....so?

You mean they designed it as a tank right? I played FFXI and SAM was not a tank.

[Tide]

You mean they designed it as a tank right? I played FFXI and SAM was not a tank.

Sure, it was used as a tank from what i gathered, personally didnt play 11. Either way the point still stabds that its ff14 nor ff11 or any other ff.

[Yorumi]

Do we really need to go down the rabbit hole of console RPG vs MMO again? Yes, the job was used a certain way in the console FFs, but as I've constantly been saying, stuff changes when you cross the threshold into any other genre.

Yes, because you do not have the slightest clue what you're talking about. You've been called out on it multiple times in multiple threads and you just ignore it. Continually repeating the mantra of "turn-based". FF14 basically IS turn based combat because it has a GCD of 2.5 seconds. Your "turn" comes up every 2.5 seconds, it functions essentially exactly like the old ATB systems of the majority of numbered FF games. If you still think turn based combat has major limitations go look up some D&D rules and tell me it's limited. You can put more actions into a turn based game than a real time one.

The fact of the matter is rdm has ALWAYS been more caster than melee. ALWAYS. You can produce NO example of the opposite, or even where melee was equal in use to casting. None whatsoever. 30 years of FF history has told us exactly what RDM is. The promotional content told us exactly what RDM would be. Spamming these threads, expecting a wild deviation from what rdm has always been, and was shown to be is nothing short of crazy.

[Yorumi]

Sure, it was used as a tank from what i gathered, personally didnt play 11. Either way the point still stabds that its ff14 nor ff11 or any other ff.

If it was, that was way late in the game. At least through wings of the goddess, like 6 years into FF11 SAM was a melee dps.