RDM: You only have yourself to blame, if you expected something else

[Saito_S]

It's weird how this discussion is sort of stretched across more than one thread right now, but to add onto what Yorumi is saying here - this is the other reason I didn't reply to you, Duelle.

Rabbit hole? I mean, I hadn't previously brought up your whole "console FF vs. MMO FF" argument, but to be honest, it makes no sense to me. There is nothing about a console/turn-based FF, nor an MMO FF, that would inherently preclude either a full hybrid, with 50% focus on melee and magic or combining them, OR a "skewed" hybrid like what we got with XIV RDM. You come off as a bit condescending with this argument, as well - "Sigh. This again?" When the premise itself - that "not a console FF" is apparently a HUGE deciding factor in what RDM could or should be - is neither clear nor settled.

[ADVSS]

I dont see why you dont just root for mystic knight, its totally the job youre asking for when you want a melee caster. Obviously some things were going to be different it was even stated before that rdm would either be underwhelming or op if it did everything well. Personally I am having a blast, but I love playing casters even though im usually in the enemies grill so this settup works great for me. I think at the roots it does what it basically is at the core. So what if melee was "tacked on" honestly never used melee except to spare mp on "trash mobs" aka pre boss fights. So Im totally fine with this iteration. This discussion has been going on for a very long time now, and its like beating a dead horse. If they made Mystic Knight a DPS I guarantee all the things you wanted from your version of RDM would ne its toolkit


Not only that but lets go back to the RDM tank idea, there you go. Many people have stated that it would fit better for Rune Fencer or Mystic Knight, I dunno why you keep thinking that redmage had lots of sword skill and sword magic, except for 11.

[Warlyx]

ninja is the melee caster (kinda) , so is Drk (and now pld too )