Studying The Blade- The SAM DPS Guide

[Gallus]

This just occur to me....wouldnt it be Kaiten + Kasha / Gekko finisher only use 10 kenki (under right position req). Since we know that if we use Shinten, you wont gain anymore kenki. While if you do Kaiten + weaponskill you still gain kenki (5-10 kenki) except for iai.

So it should be 10-15 kenki for 200 pot and 25 kenki for 300 pot? Have anyone tested and see if it actually dps gain?

Shinten is an OGCD. You'll still gain the same kenki from that gekko/kasha even if you don't use kaiten there.

[Yuxiichan]

We wont really gain anywhere near 2.2k unless we fully meld Crit. In one case, i made a build and ended up with 1945 DH, 1438 crit, 1133 Det, 880 SS, Im pretty sure there is no Min SS but my Current SS is 1100 ( estimated not on game atm ) and i do perfectly fine with that, so i made another Set that gives me just that. 1945 DH , 1165 crit ,1220 Det, 1066 SS. I mean i havnt really spoken to Other samurais before. This is the first time i even look on Forums for this information, but Thats just what im guessing so far.

2nd part to my comment since it was too long

[Nominous]

Updates to the front page!

Quick Guide for easier navigation.
Cleaned up certain sections. Better wording, organization, etc etc.
Updated information/wording on the AoE rotation section.
Updated Stat Discussion section with newer/more relevant information.

As an aside- If anyone's interested in posting their findings with specific rotation tuning for specific fights, feel free! As a DRG, I always enjoyed seeing people talk about how they fine-tuned their rotation for burst at specific points of a fight in their thread! Of course, optional, but I thought I'd at least open the discussion to the possibility!

[shao32]

i made this build http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/11ON3

DH 2050

CRIT 1287

DET 1303

SS 789

i think is pretty balanced, i can change the gloves to remove some crit for SS but idk ¿what do you think? i find with the removal of the acc cap is more harder to balance susb stats on DD

[PROBOUND]

I'd like to get some opinions/comparisons of the Midare Spamming Sams who ignore Hagakure entirely. I find it strange that some people are ignoring the class' most powerfull cd and still coming out ontop if they get RNG crits. Seems off to me. Can we get some more numbers/examples of the Midare only sams to compare dealing specifically with Omega Savage? I've melded DH > DET > Crit as many have stated is best overall, and find it lackluster in comparison to seeing more frequent Crits.

Perhaps depending on the Fights one would be stronger than the other?

Current stats with food:
Dhit: 1940
Det: 1514
Crit: 1389

[Gallus]

I imagine Hagakure will do more damage on average, but Midare is more like rolling a dice, if it crits, it's a DPS gain, but it most likely won't. Also, keep in mind Hagakure is completely mobile damage, Lajitsu always roots you, so midare "spam" is also more vulnerable to getting interrupted by mechanics.

[Ariyn]

What some people don't seem to realize is that you can not simple stack 1-2 stats. The more DH you have the more valuable the others become. So by all means stack DH to 2k levels and ignore the rest, your dps will plummet and you'll only have yourself to blame. These 'stat priorities' are more of a guide and how your stats should look once you are done. You want DH > Det > Crit to be highest in that order. For instance I currently sit at 1650 DH, 1425 Det, 1375 Crit on my sam. The stat priorities do not mean stack DH above all else.

The only stat that really has a stopping point for sam is SS and that point is 940. Any more SS and you will start to start to throw your rotation out of line for a 1 sen opener

[Allyrion]

The only stat that really has a stopping point for sam is SS and that point is 940. Any more SS and you will start to start to throw your rotation out of line for a 1 sen opener

Then do the 3 Sen of opener. It requires a lot more Sks to break - 1783 according to Dervy.
Sks is also weighted at the highest with 0.15 (weighted for 320) compared to 0.13 for DH. However, it loses value when there's downtime or disconnects with the boss.

[Ariyn]

Then do the 3 Sen of opener. It requires a lot more Sks to break - 1783 according to Dervy.
Sks is also weighted at the highest with 0.15 (weighted for 320) compared to 0.13 for DH. However, it loses value when there's downtime or disconnects with the boss.

3 sen opener is also less DPS due to lining up with TA/Embolden as well. If you wish to go the SS route then that's your choice but no top parsing sam is pushing it for good reason.

[Allyrion]

3 sen opener is also less DPS due to lining up with TA/Embolden as well. If you wish to go the SS route then that's your choice but no top parsing sam is pushing it for good reason.

1) I'm not pushing a Sks build. It's a complicated stat that has other factors involved than being the best stat or keeping it below 940.

2) There are quite a few top (95%+) SAM with +1500 Sks. Again, I'm not to stack that but it's an alternate build people are working on. High uptime is needed or you lose dps so it's actually only top SAM that can pull it off in progression anyway.

3) Most of the top SAM parses use the 3 Sen opener if you check it. It isn't as great for TA but it works just as well for Embolden. It spikes and then lulls at 3 mins but lines up better for future raid cooldowns (including TA). The differences between the two even out fairly quickly even taking those CDs into account.

The 1 Sen clips very early on and even without stacking Sks, people will have to learn to if they don't get the right drops. By the next raid, the one will probably be dead.