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    Player Yuyuka3's Avatar
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    Kyara Moonbane
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sigmakan View Post
    15% HP > 300 potency shield in most cases when on a tank. Both combos are 1GCD. Adlo cost is 50% more than cure2.

    Pretty much any way you slice it its better than adlo. More heal, slightly bigger shield, less mp, more flexibility.
    Or we could simply apply a Swiftcast Stoneskin and call it a day if we need that shield asap. Also, for me there is LESS flexibility because if Benison is on CD, I can't use it. I was always able to use Stoneskin. There is a difference between 'usable every 30 seconds' and 'usable whenever'. Also, stop ignoring the fact that we only get that skill at level 66. That's inacceptible.

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    Stoneskin was also very useful to protect DPS who died, since it effectively only ever dropped off when they took damage in a battle. Benison is almost useless for this, because it drops off after only 15 seconds no matter if damage came in or not.
    Also, where does the 'less MP'-nonsense come from? Less MP than what? Does it cost less MP than Cure II + Stoneskin, sure. Does it cost more MP than only Stoneskin? No. Same cost as Cure II.
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    Last edited by Yuyuka3; 06-22-2017 at 06:45 AM.

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    LegoTechnic's Avatar
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    Seolla Viltara
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Yuyuka3 View Post
    Also, where does the 'less MP'-nonsense come from? Less MP than what? Does it cost less MP than Cure II + Stoneskin, sure. Does it cost more MP than only Stoneskin? No. Same cost as Cure II.
    The "less MP" complaint is specifically in his comparison against Adloquium, which was his entire complaint. Adlo is about 20% more expensive than Cure II (his 50% is an improper embellishment), so yes, using a 700 potency heal followed by a benison shield is 20% less mana than a 300 potency heal with a 300 potency shield.

    Benison is a versatile variant on adlo gated by its 30 second cooldown in exchange for not necessarily requiring the preceding Cure II cast, which makes it obvious that its purpose is to infuse a bit of SCH design elements into the WHM formula (specifically the tactics). Lilies in general are kind of a WHM variant of aetherize stacks separated from aetherize itself, given their variant is Assize (same mana return and cooldown, but heals and deals damage instead of awarding stacks), though the way they're tied to abilities is a unique experiment quite different from SCH's utilization. I suppose the bleeding over of class mechanics is only fair though, since so much of the WHM formula (technically CNJ, given it's shroud and seal) was shoved onto SCH for homogenization reasons (AST was already a WHM clone with cards to begin with).

    Give it two more expansions and we will all play the same. What kind of minion do WHMs want? Perhaps a little tree sprout?
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    Last edited by LegoTechnic; 06-22-2017 at 07:46 AM.