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    eagledorf's Avatar
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    Jugem Mumei
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    Tonberry
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    Gladiator Lv 37
    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    No, they're not, because you can't overshield like you can overcure
    Um, doesn't that mean shields are superior to heals of the same potency? Overheal is all wasted, but a shield is never wasted. The only time a shield is a problem is when they don't stack like Adlo and Nocturnal Aspected Benefic.

    Player performance trackers literally count shields as heals. The only time a shield isn't equivalent or superior to a heal is it you don't take damage for its duration and it wears off.

    you can't shield to trigger HP-based effect
    You mean the thing only Paladin or Warrior has so it doesn't matter of DRK can trigger it or not? What point are you trying to even make by saying this?

    TBN is certainly not self-heal and mitigation
    What is Thrill of Battle? What is the shield part of Aldoquium? The Blackest Knight is the same.
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    Last edited by eagledorf; 06-23-2017 at 10:41 AM.
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    Reynhart's Avatar
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Ragnarok
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by eagledorf View Post
    Um, doesn't that mean shields are superior to heals of the same potency?
    In a sense, yes, they are. But then you need to consider the MP cost, the recast, the effect of Convalescence, etc...
    Quote Originally Posted by eagledorf View Post
    You mean the thing only Paladin or Warrior has so it doesn't matter of DRK can trigger it or not? What point are you trying to even make by saying this?
    Spamming TBN can not ease the burden of Walking Dead. Nor does it have any direct effect on a Doom debuff like the one in Wanderer's Palace Hard.
    Quote Originally Posted by eagledorf View Post
    What is Thrill of Battle? What is the shield part of Aldoquium? The Blackest Knight is the same.
    Thrill Of Battle heals you and increases your max HP, Adloqium heals and puts a shield on you. Blackest Night only puts a shield, like Stoneskin did.
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    Last edited by Reynhart; 06-23-2017 at 02:24 PM.

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    Shodeku Hitsuma
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    Midgardsormr
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    tbk isnt a heal or supiror to it, its because tbk only lasts for 5 seconds while actual healing isnt on the clock

    this means unless an enemy is dealing over the 20% within that 5sec window it isnt getting full value while pld could heal over 20% of his own hp and have that hp when he needs to take the damage, this also in turn saves the healers time to heal and allows them to do more dmg instead

    honestly not sure why drk didnt get a proper self heal this expansion, tbk is nice but it certainly isnt a heal, just more mitigation.
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