Clemency a bit OP?

[Faytte]

Not at all.

For one non healers can heal just fine, its just costly. Look at Redmage double casting veracures as a dps?
Secondly every time you cast clemency, your not casting holy spirit which is a choice between survival and damage (and guage).
Thirdly, Warriors have amazing self healing that is OGCD and has no other cost, and comes up about every minute or so, more than enough for dungeons and raids.
Fourthly, you are acting like gauge comes up really rapidly compared to 3.0. If you are LUCKy you might get a shelltron off every 30 seconds in 4.0 in shield oath, maybe a little more often in sword oath.

Given you are only level 60, nothing has really changed at all since Heavensward for you, save the cast time going from 2.0 to 1.5, So I can't understand your thought at all. Paladin survivability comes at the cost of GCDS and attack options while the other tanks have it built into their kit.

[winsock]

Secondly every time you cast clemency, your not casting holy spirit which is a choice between survival and damage (and guage).

you cant argue balance comparing a job to itself, you gotta compare to other classes. While PLD may lose dmg, WAR dies and loses everything.

Thirdly, Warriors have amazing self healing that is OGCD and has no other cost, and comes up about every minute or so, more than enough for dungeons and raids.

PLD can spam clemency 5 times in succession, and can rebuild all the mp lost in less than a minute.

Warrior has the 1200 heal *and* thrill of battle that they can pop off together for an immediate burst of healing before the Paladin gets a single clemency off.

Clemency has a 1.5s cast time... I have never died because I couldnt cast clemency fast enough. Most events in this game happen in 2-3 second intervals.

[bswpayton]

you cant argue balance comparing a job to itself, you gotta compare to other classes. While PLD may lose dmg, WAR dies and loses everything.


PLD can spam clemency 5 times in succession, and can rebuild all the mp lost in less than a minute.

And whats wrong with that, it fits with the lore thats all that matters

[winsock]

And whats wrong with that, it fits with the lore thats all that matters

Lore is not all that matters. Pheonix Down historically could be used in combat, but cant in this game. It cant, because it would hurt game balance.

I am by no means arguing that PLDs should not be able to heal themselves, just that the healing they have at the moment is a bit over-the-top.