Clemency a bit OP?

[SerahFarron]

WAR lost bloodbath which would have been a chunk of self healing with x6 decimates. WAR self healing was destroyed with 4.0, yeah we have Throb, EQ, IB, nerfed self heal with path giving less than 50% healing(it seems like a lot but its not), but PLD gained UNINTERRUPTIBLE casting, Clemency MP cost reduced, Clemency cast time reduced from 2.5s to 1.5s. Increased potency by 10 to EVERY combo, still have only 15% damage penalty, on top of HG and all the other shit they got. It's 2.0 all over again why even go WAR or DRK when PLD is a fucking god.

[Faytte]

WAR lost bloodbath which would have been a chunk of self healing with x6 decimates. WAR self healing was destroyed with 4.0, yeah we have Throb, EQ, IB, nerfed self heal with path giving less than 50% healing(it seems like a lot but its not), but PLD gained UNINTERRUPTIBLE casting, Clemency MP cost reduced, Clemency cast time reduced from 2.5s to 1.5s. Increased potency by 10 to EVERY combo, still have only 15% damage penalty, on top of HG and all the other shit they got. It's 2.0 all over again why even go WAR or DRK when PLD is a fucking god.

No one is saying wars should have lost or not lost blood bath.On the other hand as a war through all of 3.0 i rarely needed my healers ever in dungeon aoe packs, something I could never say about my paladin. More over the former clemency was near useless given it was easily interrupted and took an age and a day to heal, often landing only after your tardy healer had already topped you off. The potency increases are also silly to mention and underline a lack of understanding of how paladin dps stacked in 3.0. Xeno and others have already tested paladin vs war in 4.0 and early results from their streams show war is ahead still. The 15% damage penalty on Shield Oath is on a class that aso has no self sustained damage booster like Maim on War or Dark Side on DRK. It's also worth noting that Wars got a rather massive 5% damage increase in defiance in 4.0 that you are ignoring, as did darkside on DRK.

Lastly, checking your posting history, where were your complains for the last 2 years when Paladin were crap? Now that they are even or arguably better, you have a huge problem with it, but were fine when Warriors and Drk were gods? Hypocrisy.

[SerahFarron]

Lastly, checking your posting history, where were your complains for the last 2 years when Paladin were crap? Now that they are even or arguably better, you have a huge problem with it, but were fine when Warriors and Drk were gods? Hypocrisy.

Oooh we got a creeper over here. WAR and DRK weren't "gods" in 3.0 PLD was just trash. Which is why I wanted it fixed . It's bad that I wanted tanks to be balanced yeah?? You sound stupid

[SeriousxSarcasm]

Please don't ask for Clemency nerf. D: The amount of times a PLD has saved my group from a crap healer already is invaluable, and I'd like to see more healing abilities given to them. XD

[Faytte]

Please don't ask for Clemency nerf. D: The amount of times a PLD has saved my group from a crap healer already is invaluable, and I'd like to see more healing abilities given to them. XD

Clemency is fine. More healing though? I think the ability works well enough as is. If it was any stronger then the complaints in this thread would be justified. In the meanwhile Warriors just angry they are not better in every possible way like they used to be.

[YitharV2]

Clemency is fine. More healing though? I think the ability works well enough as is. If it was any stronger then the complaints in this thread would be justified. In the meanwhile Warriors just angry they are not better in every possible way like they used to be.

I'm not angry that PLDs are good. I'm angry because they took away things that were useful, like Flash and Bloodbath. I'm angry because they took away the fun part of Warrior, synergy between offense and defense.

[Dizzy_Derp]

unless you in early prog and trying to survive just to see mechanics you should NEVER EVER EVER USE CLEMANCY. its a huge dps loss and this isn't hw anymore where you healers could do half the damage you can as a tank. now in sb they are doing roughly 1/3 of the damage you can. once you learn the fight either remove clemancy from your hotbar or just act as if you did.

[Reynhart]

once you learn the fight either remove clemancy from your hotbar or just act as if you did.

Please stop posting that kind of nonsense, we don't want to be turned into Holy Spirit bot next expansion.

[Dizzy_Derp]

Please stop posting that kind of nonsense, we don't want to be turned into Holy Spirit bot next expansion.

clemancy is really really bad.unless like i said you dont now said fight and you need to keep someone alive to learn it. but no i will not stop posting things like this. see i just started using the official forums because when i was browsing it recently i almost threw up at how misinformed 9% of the people here are. it baffles me how it is that the majority of people in here are so clueless about how this game works. so i will continue to add to discussions on here because theses are things you guys need to hear even if you dont agree or like it. back to the point though as long as clemancy is a casted ability and not an ogcd it will remain trash tier post prog.

[Tankstuff]

clemancy is really really bad.unless like i said you dont now said fight and you need to keep someone alive to learn it. but no i will not stop posting things like this. see i just started using the official forums because when i was browsing it recently i almost threw up at how misinformed 9% of the people here are. it baffles me how it is that the majority of people in here are so clueless about how this game works. so i will continue to add to discussions on here because theses are things you guys need to hear even if you dont agree or like it. back to the point though as long as clemancy is a casted ability and not an ogcd it will remain trash tier post prog.

This guy gets it. Out of all the advantages pld has over the other 2 tanks you guys are bitching about clemeny lmao no wonder tank balancing is shit in this game