Thread: Dragoons... how do you feel post 4.0?

I wouldn't mind if they made PVE DRG like PVP DRG. For those who are unaware, PVP DRG plays like this:

Dragoon has two combos:
1. TT-VT-FT-FC
2. ID-Dis-CT-WT

The 4th hit in either combo grant TWO eyes. So after 1 full rotation of both combos, you use GK to enter LotD. During LotD you have 30 seconds to use Nastrond, and upon using it, you fall back in BotD. So it's sort of like a Foul, you get one shot of it, BUT you can do it once every rotation instead of 2-3x every 80 seconds. They could make DRG like this, and just make Mirage Dive a regular oGCD with a normal timer instead of this proc BS. Gating our stance behind the accrual of eyes from 2 separate OTHER oGCDs that move us around or may not be usable during certain phases is cumbersome. Then they could make Lance Mastery do something else like make FC or WT 400 potency instead of giving us a 5th.

Originally Posted by Jonnycbad

I wouldn't mind if they made PVE DRG like PVP DRG. For those who are unaware, PVP DRG plays like this:

Dragoon has two combos:
1. TT-VT-FT-FC
2. ID-Dis-CT-WT

The 4th hit in either combo grant TWO eyes. So after 1 full rotation of both combos, you use GK to enter LotD. During LotD you have 30 seconds to use Nastrond, and upon using it, you fall back in BotD. So it's sort of like a Foul, you get one shot of it, BUT you can do it once every rotation instead of 2-3x every 80 seconds. They could make DRG like this, and just make Mirage Dive a regular oGCD with a normal timer instead of this proc BS. Gating our stance behind the accrual of eyes from 2 separate OTHER oGCDs that move us around or may not be usable during certain phases is cumbersome. Then they could make Lance Mastery do something else like make FC or WT 400 potency instead of giving us a 5th.

Yes, I actually enjoy PVP DRG very much and would not mind at all if PVE DRG worked like this.

I think eyes are still based off jumps, but jumps are high damage low cooldown moves in PVP.

I haven't had any issues with BotD falling off since the change and the potency buffs have got me putting out competitive DPS.

V1S is perfect for DRG right now because of how often we can elusive jump, although I have gotten myself into trouble using Jump/SSD during a knockback and finding myself in a very awkward position on the ice.

V2S is a bit annoying with how much movement and downtime there can be, but it's not too hard to just pop BotD and fill that timer up before -100G to be safe.

Haven't gotten to V3S yet, but I'm sure we'll perform adequately.

All in all, I'm pleased with DRG at the moment. It's certainly not perfect, but the potency buffs and the plethora of QoL changes have certainly added up to make my experience better.

How interesting is the 4.0 DRG rotation? Is it proc-based? Cooldown-based? Buff-based?

I liked DRG both in ARR and HW. And in SB too, but only until I reached lv70 and found that this final skill made this once such simple and cool job into a complete trainwreck. Absolutely hate nastrond, because it makes DRG much harder to play and this skill not even feels very powerful in return to how complicated DRG playstyle it makes.

Used to be my main job, now i'm throwing into trash bin.

Originally Posted by HappyHubris

How interesting is the 4.0 DRG rotation? Is it proc-based? Cooldown-based? Buff-based?

1-2-3-4-5 repeat. Fit as many oGcds in as you can. In a nutshell.

Originally Posted by Gravton

1-2-3-4-5 repeat. Fit as many oGcds in as you can. In a nutshell.

So sort of like BRD in 3.X?