Thread: Dragoons... how do you feel post 4.0?

Ah, but what is a difficult fight if not a creative way of disturbing the perfect rotation?

That said, entering LotD with a low BotD timer will prop you up to 15 seconds as well as spit you out at 15 seconds on BotD. I may have missed if someone has conclusively determined it would be better to go LotD immediately or hold out for more, but in an emergency I'd think it obvious you should save BotD that way rather than lose it all.

In That Other MMO there are/were plenty of mechanics similar to what the Gaze and BotD systems are supposed to accomplish, but it at least has the good graces to let you stack way past what you technically need in most of these cases (often double). It gives you flexibility on when to spend it. Contrary to what one might suspect at first glance, this sort of idea shores up skill gap somewhat (because knowledgeable but lesser skilled players can and should prioritize what's powerful instead of what's tricky), and allows peak performance players to stay closer to what they could get on a dummy, hence less fight-specific knowledge is relevant to the work of tuning.

So it's not an unsound idea on the whole, honestly. But its current implementation still runs contrary to how the rest of the game works and has worked since ARR. A "synergy" damage dealer whose own damage cannot hope to benefit from anyone else's synergy skills sounds a little off to me.

Personally, I'd like to know why dragonfire dive still isn't counted as a jump. Because it is...but isn't...for reasons, I suppose. Allowing that skill to be counted as jump would help some in terms of getting the eyes going, as well as increasing it's general dps via BotD. But even so...I'm not certain it would be enough to make Dragoon as a job flow a little better. I'm also turned off by the fact that when we're having to reapply buffs/debuffs, while there's still a decent amount of time left on all of them (assuming mechanics aren't getting in the way), which is also disrupting the feel and flow of the job. It irks me having to rebuff heavy thrust when I still have 5 or more seconds on it...but I don't have enough time to run through another full combo, unless I just skip out on a wheeling thrust + fang and claw and just do a back to back full thrust set...which ironically, has turned out to be a dps increase by doing this (by roughly 50 dps on average). But it's not worth doing because by the time I'm going in to reapply heavy thrust and the chaos combo, everything has pretty much already fallen off. And in a fight with mechanics (and with the skill speed in our current gear) it's just not viable in an actual fight.

So NIN gets Huton to manage and it defaults at 70 seconds and then gets Armor Crush which refreshes it for another 30 seconds. Meanwhile DRG gets Blood of the Dragon on a 30 second recast that starts up with 15 seconds on the clock. And our two skills (Wheeling Thrust & Fang and Claw) on refresh it for 10 each. Both requiring a full combo for each which only totals 20 seconds altogether and to top it off our max time is only 30 seconds. Why do we have a 30 second cap? Why are both of our skills only a 10 second addition to the clock? Given how vital the whole thing is to DRG you'd think they'd have given us some leeway.

To be fair I'm also only speaking from a 60 and lower point of view so maybe this works out better after hitting 70 but it really doesn't feel very good right now.

On another note, while I don't have Dragon Sight yet just looking at it makes me feel like it's a stupid gimmick. You can't use it while solo and you've got to hope someone will stay within range of you when you're in a group and you've got to pick the person or use a macro for it. Just seems like something someone thought was a neat idea and tossed in for us.