Thread: Dragoons... how do you feel post 4.0?

ill echo chamber what people have said. Nastrond really is the issue. I find with susano extreme i dont get to use in phase 1 or i get 1 hit of it, and then by the time the sword fights start my bar is gone. its frustrating to just lose everything to that RP in the boss fight while Red Mages aren't losing anything.

I love dragoon, but I have a 50 ninja and 59 red mage and i may swap. we will see. I hope dragoons get some minor love. I don't want us to be top, but we should be better than we are.

That all being said. We have some insane burst. If you can time Nastrond and mechanics don't screw you, you can pop cooldowns and really go hard for the 15-30seconds to get your 3-4 Nastronds off and the rest of your rotation. Dragoon feels like its 80 seconds of ramp up and then the big pay off.

Playing rdm, nin and drg, it's extremely frustrating to see how their secondary resources don't fall off, don't have to be spent immediately without overflowing, and are generated without being tied to damaging offgcds. DRG really got shafted on this.

I also can't say I agree about the payoff of nastrond. Its burst is much weaker than what the a lot of the other dps classes can put out, to the point I feel like it's one of the most disappointing aspects of SB DRG. Nastrond and lotd feels so limp.

Originally Posted by Riotpersona

Playing rdm, nin and drg, it's extremely frustrating to see how their secondary resources don't fall off, don't have to be spent immediately without overflowing, and are generated without being tied to damaging offgcds. DRG really got shafted on this.

I also can't say I agree about the payoff of nastrond. Its burst is much weaker than what the a lot of the other dps classes can put out, to the point I feel like it's one of the most disappointing aspects of SB DRG. Nastrond and lotd feels so limp.

if i nastrond with B4B, Dragon Sight, and Battle Litany up I will jump to the top of the meter.... after those 30 seconds i settle right back down at 3rd/4th. I have my full right side from Lak extreme so I do decently but in farm groups im easily the lowest and I doubt getting the weapon will change that too much.

the plus side is i always get to limit break

Originally Posted by YiznoBergerFett

the plus side is i always get to limit break

Pretty sure I'd never consider that a plus.

Originally Posted by Jonnycbad

-I understand Dragon Sight was meant to be used with other melee DPS, hence the 6' range. However, please let us activate the ability from 15' away but the tether will only form if the paired player comes within 6' of us. It's frustrating to activate from the Dragoon's perspective especially with manually targeting. If it at least had the range of -activation- like Goad, it would help

the MO macro works like Goad, at least mine does. I hate dragon sight, make its range 10 sweet potatoes (yalms) and call it a day. This way I can get a tank if there are no other MDPS. its borderline useless in dungeons.

Originally Posted by YiznoBergerFett

the MO macro works like Goad, at least mine does. I hate dragon sight, make its range 10 sweet potatoes (yalms) and call it a day. This way I can get a tank if there are no other MDPS. its borderline useless in dungeons.

I believe he is referring to the range. Goad's effective range is 6 times the size of Dragon sight, so mo works a lot better.

Originally Posted by YiznoBergerFett

the MO macro works like Goad, at least mine does. I hate dragon sight, make its range 10 sweet potatoes (yalms) and call it a day. This way I can get a tank if there are no other MDPS. its borderline useless in dungeons.

I have a macro for Dragon Sight that works perfectly for me. Be aware, this macro requires your enemy to be a focus target. I do this (focus target) at every boss fight anyway:

/micon "Dragon Sight"
/targetpc <--- targets nearest player character
/action "Dragon Sight" <t>
/party The eyes of the brood are apon us, <t> !
/target <f> <----Immediately returns my target to my focus target.

This happens in a blink of an eye and is flawless. As with any macro, ensure that you are not on any cool down since macros cannot be queued.

Just get rid of BotD. Give jumps their respective increased potencies. Make Geirskogul transition to LotD with 30 seconds always. Increase the potency of Wheeling Thrust and Fang and Claw GCDs significantly and slightly decrease the potency of the other GCDs, this way people won't skip them.

Does SAM sen and kenki go anywhere? No.
Does RDM white and black mana go anywhere? No.

Just make the freaking eyes stay already, there's no reason to make DRG players lose them.

Originally Posted by Gallus

Just get rid of BotD. Give jumps their respective increased potencies. Make Geirskogul transition to LotD with 30 seconds always. Increase the potency of Wheeling Thrust and Fang and Claw GCDs significantly and slightly decrease the potency of the other GCDs, this way people won't skip them.

Does SAM sen and kenki go anywhere? No.
Does RDM white and black mana go anywhere? No.

Just make the freaking eyes stay already, there's no reason to make DRG players lose them.

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