Thread: Dragoons... how do you feel post 4.0?

I see 3 problems with Life of the Dragon.
1)It takes too long to activate
2)It adds very little in terms of damage or rotation
3)Nastrond is nearly useless as an AoE ability.

Maybe some basic changes could be reducing the amount of eyes needed by 1 and changing Nastrond into a single target attack with 400-500 potency or something.

I have an interesting idea that would make the DRG rotation a lot more interesting but I really doubt SE would change anything big at this point.

Edit: DRG also has big problems with downtime during a fight if BoTD & LoTD or when they die (not as bad as SMN when it comes to dying though. But i guess the point is to stay alive and not die.

Originally Posted by IchiExorz

I see 3 problems with Life of the Dragon.
1)It takes too long to activate
2)It adds very little in terms of damage or rotation
3)Nastrond is nearly useless as an AoE ability.

Maybe some basic changes could be reducing the amount of eyes needed by 1 and changing Nastrond into a single target attack with 400-500 potency or something.

I have an interesting idea that would make the DRG rotation a lot more interesting but I really doubt SE would change anything big at this point.

Edit: DRG also has big problems with downtime during a fight if BoTD & LoTD or when they die (not as bad as SMN when it comes to dying though. But i guess the point is to stay alive and not die.

960 aoe potency without fall off useless? When you use it in every pull after the first one? It's 3 times better than dragonfire dive x'D

Originally Posted by Vincent_Mateus

I think 960 aoe potency is not a great enough reward for the hassle. I'd much rather have larger single target burst while in LotD

I agree. Sure a 960 potency aoe on a 10 sec cd sounds great on paper but by the time you get there everything's dead. Maybe in the next pull... If the tank hurries up that is.
I can see it having some use in raid situations when an add phase happens while having a few eyes stacked already or just entering LoTD.

Would be nice if Sonic Thrust extended BoTD by 10 sec... But that wouldn't help DRG's suffering single target DPS.
I'd also prefer it if LoTD & Nastrond had a more single target approach.

The whole LoTD needs a much bigger change though imo. It's just uninteresting & weak right now compared to what most classes got.

Edit: Looks like DRG is similar to SMN in a way, having some special mechanic that uachieve once in 1,5-2min with a burst period. Except that SMN's is a lot stronger both aoe & single target. + They can keep it up & build it even during AoE situations.

Originally Posted by Erys

960 aoe potency without fall off useless? When you use it in every pull after the first one? It's 3 times better than dragonfire dive x'D

Nastrond, when it's even up, is about half as good as Doom Spike + Sonic Thrust (300 potency / 5s = 60 pps, 320 potency / 10s = 32 pps). Plus, as long as as BotD maintenance is an absolute requirement to use Nastrond, you have to go single-target to use it... through multiple AoE situations. It's a perverse incentive.

Originally Posted by Shamox

U wot m8

Let's do a simple 30sc timeline with 1 jump every 30sc and 1 SSD every 60sc:

- It's 0sc, we use SSD and Jump, 2 eyes.

- 30sc, Jump, 3eyes

- 60sc, Jump + SSD, we get 2 eyes here > we trigger LOTD between each, 1 eye.

- 90sc, Jump, 2 eyes.

- 120sc, Jump + SSD, 4eyes > LOTD, 0 eye.

- 150sc, Jump, 1 eye.

- 180sc Jump + SSD, 3 eyes.

- 210sc Jump, 4eyes > LOTD, 0 eyes.

- 240sc Jump + SSD, 2 eyes.

- 270sc Jump, 3 eyes.

- 300sc Jump + SSD, we get 2 eyes here > we trigger LOTD between each, 1 eye.

And its repeating over and over.
You will always have at least 60sc between each LOTD going up to 90sc.

Far far away from your 20-40sc at most.

and when you reduce the LotD duration from that 60-90sec you're left with 30-60sec and because you're not able to to use jump/ssd/mirage dive in same instant it takes about 70sec to enter first LotD which reduces 10 more sec from that to 20-50sec so yeah... my guess was only slightly off