Thread: Dragoons... how do you feel post 4.0?

@Hacchan

so thats what you meant. for me that is quitea opposite as i have problem with jump/ssd registering next attack instantly after using them like when i use jump and while i stop spamming the the buttons (jump is on ctrl + 6 and ssd on 6) it happens to register ssd also too early to cause clipping in GCD which wasn't too big problem in 3.x but now it makes me lose 1 mirage dive so i do prefer having that 0.5-1sec lockdown.

and i like this new rotation better than 3.x there's no more mindlessly using all the cd when they come off cd but i'am not sure about the rng removal either.
if we still had it it would be more fun but then you would have to be even more carefull with jump and ssd.
and only the initial time to reach lotd is long and after that it's only 20-40sec at most so they could give us cd that gives us 4 eyes instantly and ala morn for lotd finale to make it feel more rewarding

Originally Posted by Arkfrost

I already dumped a salt mine on reddit that could have made me the richest person on earth 500 years ago.

Since I started playing this game Dragoon was my main.
When I started playing the level 60-69 Dragoon I thought the changes were amazing. It was really fun to play.

Then I reached level 70 and it hit me like a truck in the back. Suddenly Dragoon became the least fun class I ever played.

This was 100% my experience as well. It's funny, having suffered through 2.0 jump-lock no MDEF Dragoon I thought I'd seen the worst.

So you actually already full melded VI.
Going for Direct hit was indeed a good idea and is probably the reason you can go up to 4100.
Having more than just the final number would've been cool, like crit percentil and direct hit percentil.



We already had some kind of numbers, SAM is supposed to be at around 600 dps ahead of DRG, which even with its utility brings only around 300 raid dps, there's still a huge gap.
Not gonna talk about ninja having even more utilitys and being overpowered as always.
DRG having shitty gear full of skillspeed compared to samurai makes the gap even bigger.

About dragon sight, I agree with you, I don't really understand why people are getting so upset, yeah it might feel akward but it isnt hard at all, double weaving it should be a basis.
Staying in a 6yalms range with another melee isnt hard at all either.

Anyway, with Omega coming up in a week there's gonna be some balancing and DRG getting a buff is pretty obvious.

Originally Posted by Shamox

Having more than just the final number would've been cool, like crit percentil and direct hit percentil.

crit: 13%

direct hit: 17.3%

crit + direct hit: 2,7%

uhh.. those 4th.. ->4th!!<- combo atks still weak as a 2nd atk combo and having those annoying positional needs, wich I reaaaaally dislike <,< So I STILL wont use the 4th ones at all. - - - Not cool too is they removed there DoT atk, there Stun -.- and Slow stab, wich was really helpfull in PvE >.>

I don't know what to think of all this...
I am a Dragoon since the first beta of the first version in 2010. I always enjoyed it.

I just skimmed over the 4.0 changes for now but I don't like what I read. It's not like other jobs that have like a 80% "That's great" towards a 20% "I hate the changes" no, no one seems to like the new DRG.
But if I don't like it too, I don't know what class will I play (and well, up a new class to 70, well.......)

kek, because this would be stupid and overpowered?

Well there's team bonuses and probably the balance, yet with the pause between each phase I don't think so.
Add to this that the 4100 dummy can be influenced by a lot of luck depending of which skills crits & stuff.

You don't use a single run as a basis.

Originally Posted by Shamox

Well there's team bonuses and probably the balance, yet with the pause between each phase I don't think so.
Add to this that the 4100 dummy can be influenced by a lot of luck depending of which skills crits & stuff.

You don't use a single run as a basis.

True enough, but in most cases team bonuses such as Balance and synergy debuffs don't make up for all the DPS you lose to mechanical execution.
Susanoo in particular have churning, levinbolts, levinbolts+stun, sea splitter and if you get stuck on one of those rocks it's very likely to cause you to drop eye stacks depending on how much time you have left on botd/how long it takes for people to break you free. Unless you are being balance fed, then that's another story entirely.