Thread: Dragoons... how do you feel post 4.0?

Life of the dragon's wind up is much too large for the payoff. Jump potency's should be increased significantly, or cooldowns should be cut in half for jump skills during this phase to account for the time it takes to get into it. So far, mechanics and phase changes happen right as we would be about to enter LotD. This could be fixed by allowing DFD to proc Dive Ready, or by reducing the cool down of Jump. Mirage Dive's animation lock is horrible and should be reduced significantly so we can double weave other non jump OCD's with it.

Dragon Sight is a joke, and feels incredibly clunky. The benefit to us should be increased moderately or the range of the tether should be increased to a minimum of 10 yalms. Having dragon sight auto target the nearest party member would remove the clunkiness of the skill and allow people to position themselves effectively before using it, without having to worry about trying to use it on a target that is out of range. Thats just off the top, but I would have preferred to see Jump changed instead of Geirksogul. Nastrond is not that great, considering what a hassle it is to enter LotD and how short lived it is. I hope to see at least some of this addressed before Omega

^that obvious huh? I swear how some people can make it so real =/

Square really does need to rework potency on actions at the very least. It is a huge fail to have a DRG weak as or weaker DPS as a support class!

Rotation got even more complex. One of my biggest problems with BoTD was how easy it fell off due to boss phase change or going untargetable. And it's still has the same problem even with lance mastery. Doing Susano EX makes me scream since you waste so much of the BoTD timer going in and out of his giant phase. In an ala mihgo today I got destroyed by a SMN on bosses despite having near perfect uptime. Simply put the effort put into doing the rotation does not give rewarding DPS.

Potency buffs would work, getting into LotD faster would work, making BoTD into a trait so we're always in it (yeah crazy option there), we certianly need some love.

Also scrap Dragon Sight. That is the worst skill ever. The class that jumps, bounces and weaves around like mad gets a freaking short tether! Who came up with this? Who thought this was a great idea? Putting a tiny range limited on a melee class is beyond stupid. The MNK's Brotherhood ability is 15y, more than twice what Dragon Sight is.

After having played with most of the other dps classes in dungeons, it really feels like we are bottom of the barrel in terms of aoe dps as well, and why is it that all our shit has to be line AoEs. Even though I appreciate the removal of RoT in many ways. Sometimes having the option to hit around you was needed.

Honestly the overall theme for DRG this expansion seems to be max effort/low reward. It's really a massive bummer.

This post on reddit greatly detailed pretty much all the main issues with DRG and highlighted some rather good solutions.


https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/6jijbi/i_feel_dragoon_needs_help_with_transitions/

I'm just back since yesterday and I did not take time yet to see all the differences but seeing the skills, the first thing I said was something like "it looks really too much complicated now" I guess I was right... This has always been my preferred class, I don't want to stop playing because they messed up with it.

Originally Posted by Braneric

Doesn\\'t both Jump and SSD trigger Dive Ready?

Hi. Yes. You're correct. My problem was figuring out what even proc'd Dive Ready. I am on PS4, and no where in the Tool Tip does it state that it procs Dive Ready. I had to look at SE's job guide online to learn. I thought I was going to lose my mind after reading each Tool Tip umpteen times. o_O

Originally Posted by Vincent_Mateus

1000 chars

I feel like they are trying to define their own type of dragoon (lorewise atleast) since the ffxiv dragoon is less on dragon slaying techniques and more on dragon harnessing techniques. This seems to explain why all of the abilities since 50 have been some sort of draconic shit as opposed to jump stuff. The only thing to do with jumps since 50 is BotD buffing jumps but its main potency came from gierskogul.

I agree with all your points though. Disembowel should be made back to 10% and maybe the effect of B4B is doubled while under LotD? Or just put back to normal seeing how MNKS get to keep their super internal release even if it ties in with their core mechanic. LotD is too shallow tbh especially for our end game and also how long it takes to generate.