Thread: Dragoons... how do you feel post 4.0?

I want to know! Do you love the changes? Do you hate them? How are the new skills working for you? What's your new opener? What 5 role skills are you using? Share, share share!

The positives:

I feel like I am getting to use my combos more frequently for bigger chunks of damage consistently. I also really like the new Dragon Blood Gauge.

The negatives:

At 68 DRG, I hate Left Eye, specifically that I have to be within 6 yalms or whatever plus folks who don't know think it's a bad tether that they have to run away from me to break, negating it's effectiveness. Hopefully this will occur less and less as folks realize what it is or once I've told them.

I dislike that Mirage Dive is directly tied to Spineshatter Drive because it means I have to use a stun ability when maybe it isn't ideal to do so just to get to use that ability. It should be tied to Jump...

Otherwise I like most of the changes but miss Mercy Stroke. Hopefully Nastrond is great once I hit 70!

Life of the dragon takes too long to activate from the opening of the fight. About 70 seconds. This could be alleviated by letting DFD proc Dive Ready too.

Dragon Sight is clunky to use in the middle of a rotation because targeting is not intuitive without a macro, which is also clunky. On paper it looks good, being able to buff an ally of our choice. Kind of like Cover or Clemency. But it takes a sec to target the player of our choice. I wish it would just target the nearest player so we can target ourselves by being on top of them and letting the game decide who gets the eye.

Also, animation lock on Mirage Dive sucks. It should allow for completely unrestricted movement, like Geirksogul or Nastrond.

Dragoon 4.0 is the same as 3.0, with the only difference that Nastrond feels better than geirskogul.
Check the dragoon thread as always. Also Dragon Sight macro'd doesn't clip the cd. Only Mirage Dive does and with skill speed above 980 or something like that.
Have to hate on all our gear having skill speed x'D

Originally Posted by Jonnycbad

Life of the dragon takes too long to activate from the opening of the fight. About 70 seconds. This could be alleviated by letting DFD proc Dive Ready too.

Dragon Sight is clunky to use in the middle of a rotation because targeting is not intuitive without a macro, which is also clunky. On paper it looks good, being able to buff an ally of our choice. Kind of like Cover or Clemency. But it takes a sec to target the player of our choice. I wish it would just target the nearest player so we can target ourselves by being on top of them and letting the game decide who gets the eye.

Also, animation lock on Mirage Dive sucks. It should allow for completely unrestricted movement, like Geirksogul or Nastrond.

I didn't even realize yet that there is animation lock on MD... that does indeed suck. I also agree that DFD should proc Dive Ready if they do not want to change it from SSD to Jump.

Originally Posted by Erys

Dragoon 4.0 is the same as 3.0, with the only difference that Nastrond feels better than geirskogul.
Check the dragoon thread as always. Also Dragon Sight macro'd doesn't clip the cd. Only Mirage Dive does and with skill speed above 980 or something like that.
Have to hate on all our gear having skill speed x'D

I notice the Skill Speed as well on most of the gear and sighed! ; ;

The rotation feel smoother for me, back in pre 4.0 i struggle to put the ogcd skill in between because there is just too many and its cluttered mess.

Now everything just flow nicely, the lance mastery and no more rng between flank and rear definitely hit the nice spot for me.

Doesn't both Jump and SSD trigger Dive Ready?

Originally Posted by gumas

The rotation feel smoother for me, back in pre 4.0 i struggle to put the ogcd skill in between because there is just too many and its cluttered mess.

Now everything just flow nicely, the lance mastery and no more rng between flank and rear definitely hit the nice spot for me.

True North is a godsend, I just wish it lasted for 30s instead of 15. I'm also using Leg Sweep, Invigorate, Bloodbath and Second Wind.

Is anyone using any of the other skills and if so, what are your thoughts on those? Goad, Feint, Diversion, Arms Length or Crutch?

Originally Posted by Braneric

Doesn't both Jump and SSD trigger Dive Ready?

Not that I noticed. I was also fairly certain that I looked in the Action Text and did not see it there either but it does say that it does in the Job Guide. If that is the case and it works, then it is fine as is. I'll check it out for myself this evening.

Has an ok opener but the sustained looks a bit weak compared to other classes. I'd say DRG numbers are at the bottom now (only higher than MCH, BRD and maybe SMN).