Echo seem be still need

[Savagelf]

nor do anyone want instance win button mind you that make the game boring

[Tankstuff]

I love that it requires a little bit of effort to complete. It kept the monkeys locked out of my dungeons and primal farm pts while I got geared. It was enjoyable the first time watching all the miqote and lala players face tanking the floor on msq content lol

[Erys]

Maybe I'm dumb but I found the last boss of the level 70 dungeons "harder" than Shinryuu. It was all "new" mechanics and happening all at once. Shinryuu on the other hand was a cakewalk, 3 wipes and we cleared. Mind you it was a 8/8 duty finder blind party x'D

[Aerowaffle]

I appreciated the spike in difficulty.

It made the fight feel that much more epic and not just slightly more difficult than the dungeon. I wanted the boss to feel like a powerhouse, with strength that our main character would struggle for their life to fight. You know, a final boss.

Not just another stepping stone.

[Clawbriar]

30% Echo didn't stop people dying to Twisters in T5, it isn't going to stop you dying from avoidable mechanics in any other content.

[Sarevok_Thordin]

I have to ask SE to NOT patch the echo in for the final boss fight, it's almost PERFECT.

It's supposed to be difficult and acts as a major "check" for players going into post game content. Keep the fight feeling epic even on normal.

At least let it set a few patch cycles before echoing it.