Thread: 4.0 Warrior Feedback

The question is here is whether the "punishment" or cost is worth the reward. Consider from a psychological perspective the following:

(1) taking a tanking stance before engaging enemies. The cost is dps, the reward is enmity or control of the enemy plus a reduction in damage taken. The reward outweigh the cost.

(2) building 100 rage while in tank stance and then swapping to dps stance. The cost is increased damage taken, but what is the reward? The reward is increased dps, BUT with the loss of 50 rage, and rage being units of measure associated with dps, it FEELS like you're also losing out on dps-at least in the short term.

Originally Posted by P4X0R10N

The question is here is whether the "punishment" or cost is worth the reward. Consider from a psychological perspective the following:

(1) taking a tanking stance before engaging enemies. The cost is dps, the reward is enmity or control of the enemy plus a reduction in damage taken. The reward outweigh the cost.

(2) building 100 rage while in tank stance and then swapping to dps stance. The cost is increased damage taken, but what is the reward? The reward is increased dps, BUT with the loss of 50 rage, and rage being units of measure associated with dps, it FEELS like you're also losing out on dps-at least in the short term.

we get it you wasted your parents money on a bachelors in psychology but your mindless ramblings dont apply here, stance dancing is more costly and less rewarding to war than the other two tanks period. Its led me to never leaving deliverance at this point on the ex primals outside of being forced to pull

So in situation (2) above, the cost feels like it outweighs the reward. Also, needing to slog through 2 more combos or use infuriate to get that 50 rage back feels CLUNKY and EXCESSIVE, respectively.

I suggest a healing, max health or mitigation debuff as an alternative to rage cost. And I suggest the strength and duration of the debuff scale with the amount of rage present at the time of the switch. The more rage you have the greater the strength of the debuff and the greater the duration.

For example, switching stances can cause a debuff of reducing all healing received by up to 15 percent for 15 seconds-decreasing with rage of down to 0 debuff for no rage at the time of stance change.

I havnt played WAR since 2.5 but from what ive read heard and seen they can use a buff. Looks like u can lower stance dancing to a 20 charge, onslaught should be taken off the gauge, shake it off being changed to a bloodbath of some sort and maim getting the dmg up back maybe at a lower %. That would compromise between the devs and players on the whole stance dancing issue, adding more dps and allowing more room with ur gauge

PLD isnt getting nerfed. WAR was over powered for so long. Theyll get a fix or a buff but nothing is happening to PLD

But if pally has same dps then why bring war...

Originally Posted by P4X0R10N

But if pally has same dps then why bring war...

Same could be said of War back in ARR days when PLD was the superior tank, but there were still plenty of Wars around.

Besides, it's likely only the top 5-10% of groups that are going to discriminate heavily against bringing a war (if at all). The vast majority of players likely have no idea about the fire consuming the forums over their issues at the moment.

Ofc, toxicity drips downward. So if it remains a problem for too long it could start affecting the majority of PF groups. But I doubt it will be as dire as some make it out to be. Especially if the top parses remain as close as they are.