Thread: 4.0 Warrior Feedback

If you use more SCs you generate more aggro thus you need fewer overpower.
If you use more overpower you get enough aggro to switch to deliverance use equilibrium and back to defiance ( at the loss of quite some BG tho)

Originally Posted by Baci

If you use more SCs you generate more aggro thus you need fewer overpower.
If you use more overpower you get enough aggro to switch to deliverance use equilibrium and back to defiance ( at the loss of quite some BG tho)

SC/IB before you swap. Or, if you start a pull using OP, you probably won't have any significant BG built up anyways.

Originally Posted by Kumori_Kumo

Yeah, about that. Does it get better later on as you level? Because I blew 3 Cycs on a pull and my husband the RDM still pulled mobs off me straight away- something that was inconceivable before. It feels like all I do is blow all my cooldowns to hold the mobs and then desperately try to build more Steel Cyclones for the next pull.

It does. It's not so bad for me now that I have 300 ish ilvl. Also, aoe provoke makes it easier.

Originally Posted by Kumori_Kumo

Yeah, about that. Does it get better later on as you level? Because I blew 3 Cycs on a pull and my husband the RDM still pulled mobs off me straight away- something that was inconceivable before. It feels like all I do is blow all my cooldowns to hold the mobs and then desperately try to build more Steel Cyclones for the next pull.

Try to make sure you renew storms eye buff at the end of one pull so you have it to start the next. And the mentioned usage of berserk, it's cd is short enough you can use it on almost every pull. Rotate your combo on targets, paying attention to see if the dps are attacking an enemy you aren't, while building beast gauge. I've also been rotating the slashing debuff on enemies so they take a bit more damage/build a bit more aggro as the fight drags on.

Regarding all of the complaints regarding stance swapping, I don\\'t think it\\'s THAT aweful. I got used to dumping all my rage before swapping so it\\'s not that big of an issue.

But with that said, it does make the warrior a little harder to play. It takes too long to build 50 rage if youre saving infuriate for your 6 cleave combo. A flat 20 rage cost is a good compromise. That way you could max rage again within 1 stormes eye combo and then do your fc combo.

Also, I\\'d suggest changing the infuriate trait to reduce infuriate by a flat 30 seconds. This would really make it easy and apparent to beginners that they should burn infuriate, berserk, inner beast, and upheaval as soon as possible as the timers will line up automatically.

Right now, as hard as I try, infuriate still has about 10 secs cooldown when inner release is off cooldown when I try to max dps.

Next, I\\\\'d drop the rage cost on onslaught. People can then choose to use it as free dps or save it in case of a knockback or the boss leaping away.

Shake it off should be changed to something else. Anything really.

And I think that\\\\'s all I would change.

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Originally Posted by P4X0R10N

Next, I\\\\'d drop the rage cost on onslaught. People can then choose to use it as free dps or save it in case of a knockback or the boss leaping away.

Shake it off should be changed to something else. Anything really.

I'd be okay with Onslaught keeping the 20 BG cost, but drop the cooldown to 10s. If I want to burn my gauge ping ponging between 5 mobs, that should be on me. But, Onslaught has one of the highest threat multipliers of all tank skills so I can see why it costs something to use. That said... drop SC (and Decimate) cost to 30 and add a 5s timer.

Shake It Off really needs to be replaced with a Bloodbath equivalent.

Originally Posted by TheFanciestBard

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Don't undermine stance dancing, the core reason many people love warrior, for the sake of tank homogenization.

Yes. Exactly. WAR is the "switch stances to achieve the desired result" class. You're being punished for using the core mechanic of the class as it's designed.

At the risk of sounding kinky, punishment IS part of the fun. If there was no cost at all to changing stances, it would be mindless. There would be no point to the stances at all.

But with proper "punishment" or cost, the stances take on greater meaning psychologically if that makes sense. BECAUSE there is a cost to taking a stance, there is a psychological commitment to that decision.

And when that decision, with its cost, yields an even greater reward... that is pleasure, that is bliss, that is fun.