Summoner Over-Nered (and A few other Problems)

[SendohJin]

But off that subject, has SE ever ADDED a new action for a job after the expansion already came out? Like I know they buff, nerf, and tweak traits but have they ever added a whole different action to the expansion toolset after the expansion has released?

Stoneskin II is the only thing i can think of. Though they've never removed so many things that previously existed either, so it's not like they have to create whole new animations or anything, just reactivate and tweak if they want to.

SMN's problem now is a lot bigger than Sustain (even though that is definitely an issue).

it's also really boring. you can't Bane/Fester inside Dreadwyrm so the only thing you can do is Ruin III.

[Merryl]

The meta is already out...sch is dead last for healing potency. The redmage bests us now.

[SendohJin]

The meta is already out...sch is dead last for healing potency. The redmage bests us now.

so PLD PLD AST AST?

[Merryl]

so PLD PLD AST AST?

^^what even is that? Lol
Yah i guess. ..

Everyone knows pld top tank ast top healer.

This is basically their passive agressive way to get us to stop playing smn/sch

[Claviusnex]

I'm not going to get into mythological purity as to whether a Summoner should have general healing abilities or not. The fact is Physick is a useless action for the job. On the other hand Sustain was very useful, I'd say mandatory, and fits with Summoner being a pet class. It is obvious SE didn't really look at how Summoner works when they started making changes. If they had they would have removed Physick and kept Sustain. Add in the other changes, many of which do not flow well, and I my plan once I've completed the MSQ is to reluctantly drop the only class I've really played since starting the game.

[AsahinaMyLove]

At HW: Smn classes got heavily boostet -> balanced

Now at Stormblood: Smn AND Sch got actually destroyed, As if a random trainee had some drunk ideas and the devs didnt looked into this mess before... >.>
I dont like that class anymore.... was on my Top 3 Favourites!! Now its last place like Mch(HW) is =_= (for me)

Also: Scholars CANT use Arcanist books for glamours anymore, -___- because of the weapon split Arc/Smn and Sch only...
I can equip Arc/Smn/Sch book as Sch, BUT I cant use it for glamour, fix at least this!

I got pretty upset! I have a Char with Blue themed weapons/Outfit!
Cant use that perfect (lv15) Blue book(the ONLY blue looking like one) for sch-glamour anymore ;(

[Erudito]

You know what, if any of you out there can get a party going there is a way to check if summoner was weakened too much. Go to A11S and A12S and see if the DPS is acceptable. Don't forget to go synched and at a little less than ilvl270. I have a feeling that it's either going to be BARELY enough to cover its per DPS job required damage or it might simply not be enough at all.

If there are no troubles with those 2 fight in terms of the summoner she DPS then go to synched, base item level Final Coil, the last 2 fights.
I have an incling suspicion that SMN is gonna be incapable of bringing its needed damage to at least one of those.

[LordPhantomhive]

I can agree with soloing things without sustain is difficult. I can't even buff titan any more. Which sucks in fates or any open world when he dies and all the monsters turn on you... I really didn't see the point in SE removing that and spur. I also am not seeing the enkindle timer reduction proc often. I assumed it's timer would go down and I would be making up for lost potencies with more enkindle damage, but I am not seeing it come back much faster..

[Claviusnex]

I can agree with soloing things without sustain is difficult. I can't even buff titan any more. Which sucks in fates or any open world when he dies and all the monsters turn on you... I really didn't see the point in SE removing that and spur. I also am not seeing the enkindle timer reduction proc often. I assumed it's timer would go down and I would be making up for lost potencies with more enkindle damage, but I am not seeing it come back much faster..

I find I need it for dungeons a well as many healers don't heal pets.

[Furrythefireman]

They killed the summoner job, and everybody like you got bahamut, no level 70 summer's have bahamut I have a pos. I've been summoner main since the beginning but I'm actually thinking about changing classes. And for the most part I can't even heal my pet he died like 6 times on a fate like really!!! I guess their trying to kill off summoner for SC favorite job black mage. I just might join everybody else and quit a realm reborn because they just being stupid now, like who want to spam high level dungeons spending 30 to 40 minutes in there each time, I mean they want you to grind and that's what we were doing but they had a great idea to nerf aoe's to stop big pulls. Thanks for nothing SC. ( not everyone are game freaks and want to spend thousands of hours a week playing a game)