DDoS Attacks Confirmed

[Texa]

I am surprised they directly confirmed this at all given that they are a Japanese company and admitting that they were vulnerable to an issue like this is very shameful for them. Directly admitting to what happened to their customers base is not something they would take lightly.

[Joe777]

I am surprised they directly confirmed this at all given that they are a Japanese company and admitting that they were vulnerable to an issue like this is very shameful for them. Directly admitting to what happened to their customers base is not something they would take lightly.

Name one MMO that hasn't been DDoSed, and they likely weren't even worth existing.

DDoS protection varies in strength, as does the magnitude of the attacks themselves. This was obviously a high-level attack that a game with small protection would've struggled to keep the servers operational period. Consider how the attacker has been proceeding and there really isn't any shame at all, except for the DDoSer who clearly is full of shame. Some people are saying SE is lying to us, but can they prove it isn't a DDoS attack? Until they can SE is being honest with us and not hiding anything, which is credible.

[KisaiTenshi]

Name one MMO that hasn't been DDoSed, and they likely weren't even worth existing.

DDoS protection varies in strength, as does the magnitude of the attacks themselves. This was obviously a high-level attack that a game with small protection would've struggled to keep the servers operational period. Consider how the attacker has been proceeding and there really isn't any shame at all, except for the DDoSer who clearly is full of shame. Some people are saying SE is lying to us, but can they prove it isn't a DDoS attack? Until they can SE is being honest with us and not hiding anything, which is credible.

I have to wonder what the motivation for the DDoS is, to try and blackmail SE? Most of the time DDoS's have two goals:
1) compromise the data by forcing bugs in the OS or netcode to be exploited
2) lose the target company sales by frustrating the customer base

The latter seems more likely, but as much as I would like to think that, I don't see the payoff. Who wins from this?

What they do at the data center my servers are at, is they just blackhole certain ip address ranges that the DDoS's come from (eg China, Romania, Russia, Ukraine, various VPN's and Tor end points), and it works both ways. If the network operations manager decides that a customer's machine is generating DDoS-like traffic, they will cut the machine off.

[Joe777]

I have to wonder what the motivation for the DDoS is, to try and blackmail SE? Most of the time DDoS's have two goals:
1) compromise the data by forcing bugs in the OS or netcode to be exploited
2) lose the target company sales by frustrating the customer base

The latter seems more likely, but as much as I would like to think that, I don't see the payoff. Who wins from this?

What they do at the data center my servers are at, is they just blackhole certain ip address ranges that the DDoS's come from (eg China, Romania, Russia, Ukraine, various VPN's and Tor end points), and it works both ways. If the network operations manager decides that a customer's machine is generating DDoS-like traffic, they will cut the machine off.

Sadly, DDoS attacks can lack a true motive beyond doing it for kicks. However, some may resort to it to keep others from playing a game or a game owned by a company that pissed them off.

[MistakeNot]

I am surprised they directly confirmed this at all given that they are a Japanese company and admitting that they were vulnerable to an issue like this is very shameful for them. Directly admitting to what happened to their customers base is not something they would take lightly.

Given that it is near-impossible to defend yourself completely against a DDoS attack it is not exactly shameful to admit you are vulnerable to something that practically every other company in the world are also vulnerable to.

[usalia]

Dam people.
Lots of you was asking in the past days how can se do so bad of a launch. That is how and why. If you will bay in to the bs all the time and forget the wrongs they did nothing will be fixed . ddos my ass. Go read on what a ddos in the first place.

[Mazora_Espeon]

[Texa]

Name one MMO that hasn't been DDoSed, and they likely weren't even worth existing.

I don't play other mmos (cept Wow for a bit when it was new, and I mean "no expansions out yet" new) so I wouldn't know : p.

I agree though, that is directly explaining what happened to their customers is shameful for them. Japan usually makes a point to be as vague as they can when it comes to explaining business issues. Hearing the nitty gritty about major problems isn't something they usually do.

[Mostly_Raxus]

I don't see why they would lie about a DDoS, Square has our money already. they have already come out and said there were problems on their side, the DDoS just made things worse in my opinion. and don't worry in my own experience the DDoS attacks never last longer than a week, they just want to ruin the initial fun of the expansion, they will get bored and move on soon enough... Overall I'm loving the new expansion, one of the best I have ever had the pleasure to play, Good luck to everyone trying to see the content, it will all work out, just have some patience, this is only the beginning! <3

[birdy_reene]

I can believe it, WOW, COD, and LoL servers behave like the SE servers have been when they get ddos'ed