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    Quote Originally Posted by Anera View Post
    is it just me? dose this word over use in main scenario
    I know this thread topic is from 2017 but damn they really say mayhap in every single cutscene and almost every longer text. I played the game in german language for all the years but recently playing it in english. The voices are great and all, but that word is so overused that I sometimes skip a scene just because of that xD
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    I love the writing in FFXIV, but Minfilia says "Is aught amiss?" so often that I am convinced it's purposeful trolling.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryldaun View Post
    that word is so overused
    I think you mean it's used much and more.
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    Old replies, but whatever.

    Quote Originally Posted by MoonDream View Post
    I absolutely hate how they use thee/thou, etc, all over the place, because they use it to mean formal speech when it is actually the informal/personal when it was in use in English? Ugggh. They do overuse mayhaps, ere, must needs, pray, but I just chalk that up to the local dialect.
    Depending on time period and context, it can be as simple as thou=singular, you=plural. Then it somehow became a thing to address someone with the plural form as a way of showing respect, and it slowly took over everything.

    Also I don't think Urianger is doing it to be formal. It's either the simpler single/plural or perhaps it's just how he speaks to his friends. He does use "you" in the formal sense at least once, late in Shadowbringers –
    to Feo Ul during the scene with Bismarck, using the formal version to address the king of the pixies. He also possibly uses it for Bismarck as well, a bit cloudier due to translation convention in effect, but Bismarck uses "thou" in reply.



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    Mayhap thee could try another game?
    * thou couldst


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    'Anon' ('later'..ish...)
    It means "soon".
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoonDream View Post
    I absolutely hate how they use thee/thou, etc, all over the place, because they use it to mean formal speech when it is actually the informal/personal when it was in use in English?
    It's not being misused, though. Thee/thou is not used in-game towards people of higher rank/status by any speaker who differentiates the two. (And it's worth noting, English historically had multiple simultaneous dialectal conventions surrounding 'thou' vs. 'you'.)

    Note that you spend most of ARR either as a colleague, for whom constant use of 'you' among in-game dialects that differentiate the two would be rudely stand-offish, or as a stranger under the assumed status of a mere adventurer (in essence, a mere contractor, derpy recruit, or murder-hobo).
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    The one that really irks me is 'all right' instead of 'alright.' And the reason is simple: because, phonetically, there's nothing different about the pronunciations of the two - you're just utilizing a dated 'olde Englishe' two-word format, yet nothing is actually gained by doing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeraRamis View Post
    The one that really irks me is 'all right' instead of 'alright.' And the reason is simple: because, phonetically, there's nothing different about the pronunciations of the two - you're just utilizing a dated 'olde Englishe' two-word format, yet nothing is actually gained by doing it.
    Opposite side of the coin: They've lost nothing to be accurate to the period they wish to capture, wherein the two words haven't yet been contracted among the majority of local speakers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    Opposite side of the coin: They've lost nothing to be accurate to the period they wish to capture, wherein the two words haven't yet been contracted among the majority of local speakers.
    But what period? And accurate in what way? This isn't old English we're speaking. If that were true, the first thing that would need to change is that all our 's' letters would need to be altered to 'f' - that's something that only really happened at the beginning of the 19th Century.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TeraRamis View Post
    But what period? And accurate in what way? This isn't old English we're speaking. If that were true, the first thing that would need to change is that all our 's' letters would need to be altered to 'f' - that's something that only really happened at the beginning of the 19th Century.

    You realize "all right" -> "alright" was around the end of the 19th century, right? Not the 17th, as per Milton. Nor the early 19th.

    And even then, I'm sure there are some obvious technical reasons there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    You realize "all right" -> "alright" was around the end of the 19th century, right? Not the 17th, as per Milton. Nor the early 19th.

    And even then, I'm sure there are some obvious technical reasons there.
    You realize that a) there are literally thousands of word changes over that same time span that this game does not use, b) Eorzea is not Earth, and - most crucially - that c) in your anal desire to score points, you're completely overlooking my primary argument: that as there is no phonetic difference between 'alright' and 'all right,' there is no benefit to employing such dated text when the words actually being spoken by the characters sound no different as a result.

    This isn't some situation where you've got a drawf speaking broken, highland tongue, 'an' yeh need all tha muffed up word play that ye've got tah convey jus' how strong ah' brogue tha lad 'as' - it's drama club nonsense that seeks to (and fails) to set a mood in the most impractical manner possible. Because, again, alright and all right sound the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeraRamis View Post
    But what period? And accurate in what way? This isn't old English we're speaking. If that were true, the first thing that would need to change is that all our 's' letters would need to be altered to 'f' - that's something that only really happened at the beginning of the 19th Century.

    They weren't pronounced as F's... they're not even F's, they're 'long S's, so its not even a language issue, it's a typeface issue.
    It's like 'Ye Olde' is pronounced exactly the same as 'the old'. The e is silent and the Y isn't a Y, it's a thorn.
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