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  1. #1
    Player
    Starflake's Avatar
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    Freja Reginleif
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Bonkleberry View Post
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    - Shadowflare change allows me to use Sacred Soil more.
    - I like Aetherpact, a lot.
    - My mana seems completely fine and near infinite with Lucid Dreaming and smart casting.
    - Even though Embrace had its potency reduced, I do not notice the difference at all in pre-Stormblood dungeons.
    - Chain Startegem is cool.
    - Excogitation is a great option when Aetherflow is about to come off from cool down and I have a stack left.
    - I am okay with DPS nerfs. Before Stormblood I found myself getting salty when forced out of Cleric Stance because my DPS was useful. The DPS nerfs mean stopping to heal is not as consequential and I do not get salty over it anymore.
    - SCH AoE DPS cannot be compared to WHM and AST. SCH AoE DPS is passive and practically mana neutral. AST and WHM cannot heal while doing AoE DPS and it greatly impacts their mana.
    1. Sacred Soil is rarely useful at all and hardly worth the stack over Lustrate or Energy drain
    2. Aetherpact is decent, although the range is pretty bad
    3. Mana is indeed completely fine with Lucid Dream
    4. Duration on Chain Strategem is too short. Should be twenty seconds. 15 feels and is too low of a timer
    5. Exogitation is a terrible ability. Not only is it not guaranteed that it will in fact go off, it's only 50 potency more than a Lustrate. It's probably just better to use Lustrate as you know it will actually heal.
    6. ScH AOE can definitely be compared to the other healers. The stun Holy gives is fantastic. As an AST you have Earthly Star, that 300 potency RNG move and Gravity. They much better raw healing on AST and WHM blows SCH out of the water. As a matter of fact, on my WHM, I could DPS a lot more than on my Scholar. I could barely get my dots up and Bane before I had to spam Lustrate. As a WHM I only needed to regen, put a Asylum down and Holy plus Assize plus Aero III. It does insane amounts of damage. But I guess because SCH is passive and has no mana cost while you can literally shit out 4 holies for free, I guess that makes it fine. I also don't understand this attitude that you got salty because you couldn't DPS anymore. But now, since your DPS as a SCH is basically crap, you can be happy again. I've never read such drivel on a forum for a long time.
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    Last edited by Starflake; 07-04-2017 at 03:58 AM.

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    Player Miles_Maelstrom's Avatar
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    Miles Maelstrom
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Starflake View Post
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    I also don't understand this attitude that you got salty because you couldn't DPS anymore. But now, since your DPS as a SCH is basically crap, you can be happy again. I've never read such drivel on a forum for a long time.

    Clearly a troll, I mean that last Argument was laughable, clearly a satirical post.
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    Endeleon's Avatar
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    Character
    Amethyst Loire
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 55
    Has anyone noticed that fairies have a really long response time now? I hit key for their skill and it takes sometimes 5s for them to do the spell, even when they weren't using Embrace or anything before.
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    Character
    Eir Reignleif
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 60
    Quickened Aetherflow hasn't gotten much attention so I figured I'd say something about it.

    At the core it is a good concept since more aetherflow to play with is always a good thing.
    However, how it functions leaves a lot to be desired. There is no visual feedback for when it activates for example.
    You also get no benefit from it triggering when Aetherflow is already off cooldown. This technically means you want to spend all your aetherflow when the cooldown is at around 20-30 seconds. You also get punished for being prepared and having 3 stacks with Aetherflow off cooldown.

    So I propose that the effect be changed from 10s off the Aetherflow cooldown to a chance of giving you a nonexpiring buff (stacks to 3) that reduces the cooldown of your next Aetherflow by 10/20/30s based on the number of stacks consumed.
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    Last edited by Tferr; 06-22-2017 at 09:26 AM.
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    Verrin Gunnar
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 91
    The MP cost need to be dropped & brought in line with AST & WHM & the heals need to be raised to be inline with them aswell, for basic cure whm is 450 pot & AST is 440 or 450 depending on stance
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    Cynfael's Avatar
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 80
    I've started leveling AST, and the difference is significant.

    Granted, I and the random people I group with can be reasonably expected to perform better overall since the content isn't as new to as many people, but AST feels far smoother and overall more exciting (and effective) to play. If only SCH were this much fun right now.
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    Moon Prince
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 70
    SCH Boi II and Bane Lag?
    I was curious if anyone has gotten the Lag of abilities where;
    You hit Bio 2, now an Instant, and immediately hit Bane, from part of your Aetherflow to cause yours DOTs to spread to other nearby targets, but Bio 2 does appear as a hit or miss. Meaning that Bio 2 is not registering on the Original target until after Bane, another Instant, is casted.
    I believe this to be a programing issue. Any feedback will be great. I'm playing tonight so I may get a video to share.
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    rblyell's Avatar
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    Moon Prince
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 70
    PS I love SCH 4.0.
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    Lillian Mandragora
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 70
    All I can say after reading the changes to other jobs and experiencing my own disheartening moments with scholar is shame on you SE. Maybe next time when you try to reinvent your game for a 3rd time do a beta and get feedback before you discourage more people. Nothing I can say about the job has not already been said, just shame on you.
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    Struka Windtide
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 60
    SCH is much more Manna hungry in SB and While Adlo is inefficient in Pugs I have to use it to buy time for Eos and Physik to keep the tank alive. Choices for cross class that's a joke I have five slots four are mandatory and the fifth well eye for eye is probably best in slot for day to day life. yes you gave SCH access to Lucid dream so you nerfed Aeatherflow but by doing so you made it so we had to take Lucid dream. We did to much damage fine, but you hit us in to many spots while giving our role to AST who does it better. With arguably better raid utility as well. While I will continue to play SCH its mostly because I used to like SMN and am holding out hope that both receive help. If not well you lost a healer and it might be for the best if we don't heal maybe just maybe Square will throw us a bone as que times rise.
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    Last edited by vikteren; 06-22-2017 at 02:32 PM.

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