Thread: Consolidated Scholar 4.0 Feedback Thread

Originally Posted by Cynfael

It's because we didn't shout loudly enough.

Personally I wasn't nearly as concerned about SCH since I didn't know enough about the changes to be truly worried. WHM's Lily mechanic, on the other hand, was so terrible on paper as of the build that the media played that it sparked an immediate and strong response.

I agree with this mostly, but I think this has slowly been coming for sch. I might be a huge pessimist, but I cannot be the only sch who noted certain decisions over the past year as a bad sign. Like when they first buffed noct ast I began to worry. And when Yoshi-P came out and said that healers do not need to dps, I felt that meant sch would be the most effected at this point.Then there were small things like seeing shadow flare instant and I thought to myself there is going to be a giant caveat to that skill. I think over all the signs were there but like you said we did not shout loudly enough. I'll be honest, never in a hundred years would I have thought our changes would be this bad. But I think sch are now shouting quite loudly but also I personally feel as if we have been mostly ignored.

Originally Posted by DreamWeaver

Just some curious questions regarding the SCH Lv 70 skill:

1) Does it remove 10 points per HoT tick?
2) Does it have an initial cost to establish the tether?
3) Can you rapidly switch between tether targets to perform "spot regens" on them?

Thank you in advance for your answers.

1/2. Its 10 points on activation and then 10 points per hot tick.
3. Rapidly? I wouldn't exactly say its rapid due to the 5second recast and the long windup animation to begin the heal.

So if it does auto-detonate, that would be a good fix to excog to detonate as well at the end of the duration.
So we don't "loose".

We all know that we hate wasting aertherflow stacks.

Originally Posted by MsTanya

1/2. Its 10 points on activation and then 10 points per hot tick.
3. Rapidly? I wouldn't exactly say its rapid due to the 5second recast and the long windup animation to begin the heal.

Thank you so much.

Uhh, am I wrong in saying it's basically a 24 sec super Regen with 3 min CD? (3 Aetherflows = 90 points, -10 points for activation, so left 80 points for 8 ticks)?
Because that's honestly quite underwhelming, or am I missing any features of that skill?

Originally Posted by DreamWeaver

Thank you so much.

Uhh, am I wrong in saying it's basically at 24 sec super Regen with 3 min CD? (3 Aetherflows = 90 points, -10 points for activation, so left 80 points for 8 ticks)?
Because that's honestly quite underwhelming, or am I missing any features of that skill?

I think it still heals on the initial cast, so its 9 ticks at 90 gauge, and no you aren't missing any other features other than its inconveniences such as the tether range being only 10y and I believe if the tank outranges it, the heal stops but the gauge still depletes, someone correct me if I'm wrong on that though as I rushed red to 70 and am only 68 on my sch at the moment.

1. anecdotal answer: about ten per second.
2. yes but the first cost/tick will still heal
3. no. it has around a 2.5 second animation time. untethering also puts a short cd on it. so you would link to tank. watch it's animation. hit the button again and wait for the CD. then afterwards you may tether it to again. it at least prevents accidentally slam clicking it and wasting 10 gauge

I've not played SCH in SB yet, only going off my feelings at 60 and just looking at the mess of patchnotes.

Scholar AoE was pretty nuts, but that's because Bane could spread 3 DoTs instantly and shadowflare had 100% uptime. Now Bane itself got nerfed into oblivion, it only spreads 2 DoTs and Shadowflare has a cooldown. It's the reverse of AST where it only needed one of three nerfs, maybe, but got all of them just to be sure.

I agree with the fairy nerf or the Adlo nerf because it was too easy to just stay in Cleric for entire runs, but, again, I don't agree with both.

Excog being a "just in case" heal is dumb because it has nothing over Lustrate. It seems like it was designed during the Cleric Stance days then forgotten about when they changed it.

Union I can't comment on from a practical point, but on paper it looks alright. I've heard issues about range and such, though.

Overall, Scholar got hit hard. Probably harder than it should have. But on the bright side it's just a numbers game here. I think every problem SCH has can be solved with moving potencies, costs, durations, or cooldowns around.

Originally Posted by DreamWeaver

Just some curious questions regarding the SCH Lv 70 skill:

1) Does it remove 10 points per HoT tick?
2) Does it have an initial cost to establish the tether?
3) Can you rapidly switch between tether targets to perform "spot regens" on them?

Thank you in advance for your answers.

1. Yes it looks like one tick is 10 gauge. I think spellspeed affects this because it feels slightly faster but likely my imagination.
2. No cost to tether beyond Eos taking what feels like 4 seconds to begin (proactive skill not reactive at all.)
3. You can't switch targets. Recasting the ability cancels it (the skill changes on your hotbar).

Originally Posted by Tillen

o WHM seems like the defacto heals in PvP now, look at them Assizes AND 1 lily per heal...not on RNG, guaranteed..
But we aren't here to talk about WHM.

May I also add, please don't balance healers based on PVP in PVE? Somehow I have a feeling they did that...

Anyway, I was hoping to actually play scholar in SB. I usually level it with SMN since I couldn't really get to liking the faerie and all that. I thought if it was fun I'd give it a go. I can't really say what you guys might need, but I just wanted to chime in and say I support you guys getting some loving. I am not sure SE knows how to balance healers... I wonder if they even play healers in PVE... =/