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    VallariaEllethwen's Avatar
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    Vallaria Ellethwen
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    Midgardsormr
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    Scholar Lv 70

    Nothing validates the changes made to Scholar.

    -Buff Adloquium potency and/or the % of Hp restored it bases the shield off of, or reduce Aspected Benefic % of Hp restored it bases the shield created off of.

    -Buff Succor potency and/or the % of the Hp restored it basses the shield off of, or reduce the Aspected Helios % of Hp restored it bases the shield off of.

    -Buff Sacred Soil or nerf Collective Unconscious.
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    Vallaria Ellethwen

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    Rebecca Prairillot
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    There are points that people seem to be missing
    Excognitionseems to have been designed as a premptive heal sincei n the media tour build it had infinite duration but in current build its only 30s and in 8 man content that rarely goes off with fairy and other healers regen right now it is a skill that has negative synergy with scholars toolkit and we are encouraged to use it as a conditional lustrate for 50 more potency
    Dissipation was indirectly nerfed this expansion with the introduction of fey aether still was only used rarely for dps in 3.0 when people were using it as intended. in addition to these complaints the skill design makes no sense it gives you 20% healing up which is pretty weak on sch, but you also gain 3 aetherflow and that encourages using ogcd heals that arent effected by the 20% healing up and you lose the fairy which is stronger than the 20% healing up. and you cant remove the buff to summon the fairy early so youre stuck without the fairy for 30s
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    Rebecca Prairillot
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    Fey union Feels less responsive than enkindle there have been times where there seems to be a 5s delay and during that time the fairy isnt casting embrace so unless i get alot of ticks its not even worth using when that happens.
    broil 2 just a potency increase a new dot to make us technically only lose 2 dots would have been preferable the loss of 3 dots has made sch dps like the other healers but without the healing/card mechanics to pay attention to
    Chain stratagem lost all our other defensive utility to gain offensive utility having a libra like skill was expected eventually but gutting our utility aoe and single target dps making the class feel much weaker than it was before the expansion was not a good trade imo ecspecially when AST exists
    Quickened Aetherflow boring theres no indication when it procs so i have a giant aetherflow icon next to my already 2 class quages having an indication on the quage would be nice
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    Rebecca Prairillot
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    emergancy tactics still feels underwhelming compared to other healers ecspecially since the animation lock on it is so long
    Manaoriginal astrologian had the weakes potencies but the lowest costing heals that was a neat idea but now scholar has the lost potency heals but the highest mana cost and it has the worst mana regen out of all other healers
    AetherflowScholar must choose between damage and mana regen or healing for its aether flow stacks ast and whm used to have that by needing to pop out of clerics and assize but now sch is the only one that has to choose abd sch uses a resource to use ogcd heals so they all directly compete with each other whm has 4 ogcd heals with a 1min or less cd that can be consistantly reduced unlike aetherflow AST has 2 but both are much stronger than the equivalent sch has
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    Bell Jee
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    Phantom
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    Scholar Lv 90
    I think SCH need a buff for their mitigation and make fairy more effectivenes in terms og healing again..

    I barely play sch and always been playing WHM thru hw.
    When i first leveled sch 61-65 i thought it was bit friendly till i hit level 68 where i kind of struggled keeping tank alive with healing and barely had i room for dps. Not that dps is important but i am able to dps ten times more with whm in my experience. Also since i struggled keeping tanks alive i dont like being lock behind aetherflow and spam physick and adlo which costs 1/10 out of my MP.
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    Last edited by Johaandr; 07-04-2017 at 07:36 AM.

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    Sweet Popoto
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    Scholar Minor Improvements

    Hello and thank you for taking the time to read this. I am sure that you get many comments and complaints about job changes, and there are many people who dream up amazing new abilities and traits that you should give to particular jobs that they play. I do have a few minor suggestions, which I find quite reasonable, that I would like to propose for scholar.

    I appreciate the attempt at balancing the healers in general for the Stormblood expansion, and feel that scholar has been made on a much more level playing field with other healers. Here are my few minor suggestions that might help to make some of the skills more effective in the job's toolkit:

    1) Pre-4.0, when cleric stance affected healing output, Excogitation would have a valuable addition to the job. Scholars could have applied Excogitation to a player, entered Cleric Stance, and had more freedom if the ability was triggered. In 4.0, this type of utility is not present nearly as much, due to the change in Cleric Stance. Lustrates can now be used quickly in almost any circumstance. A scholar can, for example, cast Bio II or Ruin II and use a Lustrate immediately before their next attack, without even delaying their global timer. This weakens the case for adding Excogitation to the skill set.

    Excogitation is even less important as a job tool because there is a decent amount of risk in using it versus Lustrate, in its current form, with virtually no reward for that risk. Lustrate potency is at 600 (and the ability to critical hit) and Excogitation at 650. The expected value of heal for Lustrate is actually higher than the expected value of heal from Excogitation. One of the most problematic issues with Excogitation is the fact that it does nothing if the target never reaches low HP. I would like to suggest making one of the following changes to Excogitation listed as follows:

    A) Excogitation Lv. 62
    Range 30y Radius 0y
    Cast Instant Recast 60s
    Grants target party member (remove “other than self”) the effect of Excogitation, restoring HP when member’s HP falls below 50% or timer expires, whichever occurs first.
    Cure Potency: 800
    Duration: 30s
    Additional Effect: Increases Faerie Gauge by 10
    Aetherflow Gauge Cost: 1

    Or

    B) Excogitation Lv. 62
    Range 30y Radius 0y
    Cast Instant Recast 60s
    Grants target party member (remove “other than self”) the effect of Excogitation, restoring HP when member’s HP falls below 50% or timer expires, whichever occurs first.
    Cure Potency: 650
    Duration: 30s

    Basically option A increases the potency slightly, allows the ability to complete if time expires, and allows use on self, whereas option B does not increase the potency but instead changes it to an ability that does not cost aetherflow.


    2) Fey Union as a skill is truly a creative idea that I appreciate very much. It is true to the identity of the job and a very thoughtful addition by the design team. I do have two major concerns about this ability.

    A) As you are no doubt aware, many players mention the AI interface for pets with some skepticism. A common critique is that pets will not follow commands easily if one of their abilities is being used. For example, I will often wish to use Whispering Dawn but will have difficulty making it execute while the fairy is attempting to Embrace party members. Fey Union has an even deeper level of difficulty to get the ability to execute. With Whispering Dawn (and other abilities), I can spam the button hoping that the ability will execute after the pet completes its current cast. With Aetherpact having a 5 second cooldown timer, if I want to initiate Fey Union, it is even more difficult to time this ability to occur during combat while the pet is not executing any actions, since I must wait at least 5 seconds to try again if the initiation fails. I do realize that this design is probably in place so that players do not accidentally initiate Fey Union and then accidentally cancel it immediately, and I can appreciate that part of the design, but getting the skill to activate can be quite tricky at times.

    B) Using the skill requires the target to stay proximal to the pet throughout its use. The design of the Fey Union tether was well done by the design team, but often times dodging many types of mechanics will make this ability unable to have its intended effect.

    I would like to recommend the following adjustments to Aetherpact:

    Aetherpact Lv. 70
    Range 30y Radius 0y
    Cast Instant Recast 5s
    Orders faerie next action to execute Fey Union with target party member other than self. Faerie will follow target until effect ends. Effect ends upon reuse.
    Faerie Gauge Cost: 10
    The Faerie Gauge increases when a faerie is summoned and an Aetherflow action used by you inflicts an effect on a target.

    Essentially the change is that, when activated, Aetherpact will be the next ability used by the pet, and the pet will follow the target party member until the effect ends.

    I would like to thank you for your interest and time in reading my suggestions. I do not believe that these minor changes would be a large boost in the power of the job as a whole, but rather a way of making the current design even more fluid and enjoyable to play.
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    Last edited by SweetP; 07-12-2017 at 01:38 PM.

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    Chihiro Itami
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Our new skills need a big adjustment.Fey Union is the new dissipation, fucking useless, starts off 0 when the fairy is summoned and only gains 10 stack per use of an aetherflow and drains way to fast when its used as well as the short tether is just not great unless you position the fairy yourself at the middle of the fights but in ex fights you don't have that much time to thing about it when your worrying about everything else you need to keep your mana up.
    Chain Strat need its duration increased or the percentage increased for such a long cd.
    Excog its a nice skill when your in a dungeon when the tank pulls large pulls or the start of a boss fight but for raids or 8 man's this skill is not that great because your cohealer isnt going to just let your tank stay at a certain percentage of health so one of your skills pops and theres to many variables that can also mess this up. so this needs to be changed to where it either has no time limit or still heals them at the end
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    Vallaria Ellethwen
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    Scholar Lv 70

    Nothing validates the changes made to Scholar.

    -Revert The Embrace fifty potency reduction, back to 300 instead of 250, even if it means keeping her rng spell speed buff gone.

    -Buff Broil II and Malefic III to 250 Potency like Stone IV has, or reduce the potency of Stone IV.
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    Vallaria Ellethwen

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    Carmine Altair
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    Zalera
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    Samurai Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by VallariaEllethwen View Post
    -Buff Broil II and Malefic III to 250 Potency like Stone IV has, or reduce the potency of Stone IV.
    yeah, thats what AST needs. More buffs. :/
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