Thread: Consolidated Scholar 4.0 Feedback Thread

Oh boy, here I go... never thought I would complain about a job in FFXIV, but this is the time I guess.

First and foremost, I'm somewhat unhappy with the SCH right now. I've been playing SCH since ARR with occasional phases of DRG or MCH, but my heart always belonged to the SCH. Until Stormblood hit. The changes that came with SB now ripped my heart out, tore it apart, threw it on the ground, and then stomped on it. I'll try to explain what bothers me most with the job.

Dissipation: I never really liked it and didn't understand why I would ever unsummon my fairy. Of course I get a 20% boost (which does not affect Lustrate and Co, lul) and three Aetherstacks. But in my books I doesn't simply make up for a fairy that can autoheal a different target as I take care of a tank. AND I have to manually resummon the fairy afterwards. I get punished twice for using something of my skill set, fantastic! Now with 70 it makes even less sense thanks to Aetherpact...

Aetherpact: What the hell did we do to Square Enix to receive such an awful skill? Don't get me wrong, I like it on the paper! But the execution is so poor, even No Man's Sky in it's release state seems more polished now. There's that way too long wind up animation and the rather short tether . Oh, and the fairy seems to be so bad at multitasking it can't keep the tether going and moving at the same time, happily burning that silly fairy gauge for no good when the tank needs so move out of AoE. But the worst thing of all? The heal. For something that requires me to use my most precious resource, Aetherstacks, the reward from using Fey Union is just underwhelming. It's sad. Oh yeah, losing or switching your fairy resets the gauge. Silly.

Adlo: Adlo was one of my favorite spells in ARR and HW. Why? Well, I could heal a target AND prevert it from a little bit of incoming damage! Now? It costs way too much mana, and is now even worse than AST shields. The thing that made us special is now also one of our worst skills. Well, I guess I learned to live without Adlo, and only give it to tanks who refuse to use their CDs or if a tank buster is about to come. I could as well play as WHM - and would heal significantly better.

Excogitation: Borderline useless. Nice on paper, but just like Aetherpact it hardly finds any practical use. If there only were some benefit when the buff runs out unused, or provides some kind of passive bonus as long as the buff is running. I rather use Lustrate because I know what I get and when I get it.

Chain Strategem: Just like Excog borderline useless. Duration too short or effect too low, I don't know. Not worth using it except for Primals Ex and Savage later on where every bit of DPS counts big time. And I thought they would remove niche skills.

Aetherflow: I'm very sad they put it down to 10%. I know, we can now use that other role skill as well, but wasn't the joke that we didn't need another skill because we already had one? Now we have two. I'm just glad I managed to somehow get along with Aetherflow alone.

General DPS capability: I can't say I'm happy how things are now. I don't mind not doing damage since I have enough to do with tanks unwilling to pop CDs, but WHEN a tanks uses them and I have a little bit spare time to cast some DoTs they're rather unimpressive and don't feel worth the mana and cast time. Bane's a plain joke in my eyes, and not even a funny one. More the offensive 'I spit in your face' kind of a joke.

Summary: SE successfully managed to patch my fun out of a job I care about and love. Please overhaul your overhaul, SE. If neccessary remove the fairy and make it a CD like the PvP skill. Or seperate SCH from ACN if that helps! Do something, I beg you.

The novelty of SCH was good MP regen with slightly higher costing spells and some raid ultility with sustained damage. All this made sense since it was a shield healer based on a dps job. This job makes no sense anymore. I still play it because its the only one im really interested in.. and it heals content fine despite having shield that sometimes dont matter as the tank takes more hp than it heals and shields for in a single second before I can cast another heal. Even though I waste 90% of my excognitions. Even though my fairy feels way less usable and still clunky. I still play it and find myself hoping that 4.1 makes some step... but im not going to hold my breath. My faith in this games direction is shot to bits already. About the only satisfaction i get is eye for an eye and adlo deployments... and thats not saying much.

Originally Posted by Supersun

I think the #1 thing Scholar needs for the health of the game is it's AoE capability brought back.

Yeah, outside of this and SCH'S new skill set not synergizing well with its identity the rest of SCH is still pretty solid.

Bring back Bio and keep B2 as instant while reverting the changes to Bane. This will recover a fair amount of AOE and allow for the fluid weaving that makes SCH enjoyable.

I still feel that AST having stronger shields is a non-issue since SCH shields still give enough eHP where necessary but SCH Fairy still offers great utility.

Fey Union + Dissipation is like 3.0 Wanderers and Bloodletter. So counterintuitive as to how the class actually plays. But there is the benefit of a healing buff and if you save the Aether flow for when you re-summon the fairy it's free meter time. So it kind of works if Fey Union wasn't both trash and situational.

Originally Posted by Judge_Xero

Yeah, outside of this and SCH'S new skill set not synergizing well with its identity the rest of SCH is still pretty solid.

Bring back Bio and keep B2 as instant while reverting the changes to Bane. This will recover a fair amount of AOE and allow for the fluid weaving that makes SCH enjoyable.

I still feel that AST having stronger shields is a non-issue since SCH shields still give enough eHP where necessary but SCH Fairy still offers great utility.

Fey Union + Dissipation is like 3.0 Wanderers and Bloodletter. So counterintuitive as to how the class actually plays. But there is the benefit of a healing buff and if you save the Aether flow for when you re-summon the fairy it's free meter time. So it kind of works if Fey Union wasn't both trash and situational.

The nerf to Bane wasn't a nerf directed to SCH but SMN, their AoE with the new Bahamut is really strong. You need to bring back a DoT but make it only SCH.

Originally Posted by Riyshn

I approve of this idea. We even have the Lv40 job quest just kinda sitting there without any skill now that Leeches has been removed. Give us Scald there or something.

Oh! Or Leech, and let it's damage return some HP to the fairy, now that we lost Sustain.

Also, you know, an Enhanced Bane trait to at least partially revert the nerf would be nice.

What SCH cares about Sustain? If the fairy needs healing, they'll heal themselves. Sustain is not worth the GCD for SCH.

Originally Posted by Rubiss

What SCH cares about Sustain? If the fairy needs healing, they'll heal themselves. Sustain is not worth the GCD for SCH.

A fairy that's healing itself isn't doing anything else for 5+ GCDs. I would much rather spend a single of my own to cast Sustain and heal it. Especially with how much the fairy gets murdered by AoEs now. (Seriously, even in older content. It really feels like they stripped the AoE reduction they used to have. I rouletted into a Keeper of the Lake the other day and had to resummon twice.)