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  1. #1
    Player
    Cynfael's Avatar
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Judge_Xero View Post
    It is pretty much the same for all healers. It is quite an adjustment to go from keeping the tank alive with a regen while watching Netflix to actually having to think about healer CD usage.
    I wouldn't even say this is the case, at least not more so than it was during Heavensward launch.

    The only spike in difficulty I perceived was when tanks didn't know how or when to use CDs on larger pulls or on tank busters; otherwise it was mostly shield and DPS as usual.

    Actually, I do think that AoE healing requirements went up a bit overall, but each healer has appropriate tools for dealing with that without issue. It's reactive healers who don't observe patterns who suffer the most since they will find themselves out of MP from panic healing if they don't understand when and why the damage is coming out.

    My beef with 4.0 SCH isn't that it's truly weak or can't get the job done, because that's not true; it's that SCH got hit with seemingly unnecessary nerfs (did we really need to increase Adlo MP costs, further nerf faerie healing, and keep shielding potencies the same while the already powerful AST got more shielding potency with only one real trade-off in A.B.'s cost increase?) combined with a forced change in playstyle with Aetherflow MP return cut in half to ham-fistedly force SCH to use Lucid Dreaming a la WHM and AST, who already used their respective versions of that mechanic, and yet another poorly designed capstone ability. Fey Union is powerful enough, but the wonky activation, extremely short tether, and continual drain on the faerie gauge if the tether is broken without being ended by the caster make it needlessly restrictive.

    WHM has its own issues from a fun and "does it make sense" perspective, but they at least function more or less the same if not stronger in some important ways.

    AST is in the best shape ever with a fluid, fun, effective playstyle that rewards people who enjoy having a lot of actions to use and decisions to make. SCH still has elements of this, but the new parts of their kit (with the exception of Chain Stratagem) don't feel nearly as impactful and don't mesh that well with their existing skills. Hopefully the dev team is looking at the situation as "AST is in a great place; what can or should we do to help WHM and SCH feel like this?"
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    Last edited by Cynfael; 06-24-2017 at 01:30 PM.

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    zeopower6's Avatar
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    Garu Dyne
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    I think they mostly tried to adjust AST without considering that maybe they'd have to adjust WHM or SCH as well. I think SCH probably needs the 'most' adjustments to counteract what they did to make AST playable.
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    Character
    Yusei Max
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    Famfrit
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Can we scholars get a buff please????
    Embrace- from 250 to 350 cure potency
    Excognitation- duration to 1 or 2 minutes
    Aetherflow_back 20% mp regeneration
    Replace Fey Union with Fairy dust trail-tethers to a enemy and deals damage over time potency of 300
    Replace Chain Stratagem with Fey energy- gives 10% to a party member 30 second cd.
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    Spoekes's Avatar
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    Spoekes Magica
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    Odin
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    Scholar Lv 70
    I don't need the healing buffed, MP is fine when Lucid is used on cooldown, at this point I don't even mind getting skills I don't use on max level anymore.
    But please give us some damage back, there is no sense in i.e. Aero III alone being stronger than our dots baned with our most precious recource on multiple targets.
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    Riyshn's Avatar
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    Riyshn'a Nhise
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Spoekes View Post
    I don't need the healing buffed, MP is fine when Lucid is used on cooldown,
    While this is true, why is it a thing? As far as I can tell, the only reason Lucid Dreaming is even in the role skills is because they couldn't figure 10 skills to round out the number, so they decided to take away everyone's MP restoration, cleanse and Heavy, then force us all to take Lucid and Esuna to get back these core tools (plus nerfing Aetherflow so that SCH didn't end up with stupidly good MP restoration.)
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    Lillian Mandragora
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    Leviathan
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Riyshn View Post
    plus nerfing Aetherflow so that SCH didn't end up with stupidly good MP restoration.
    Which shouldn't have mattered judging from the other healers tool kits.
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    Character
    Hades Pluto
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 80
    Ok not gonna go into a long explanation but, with all bane nerf and shadow flare nerf Sch is definitely not it's old self. It's definitely weaker but I will say I like the new heal abilities, it's for planing ahead and getting ready for the " O Crap scenarios". Still wish Eos wasn't nerfed >.< .
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    Character
    Rubiss Tantegel
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Having hit 70 and done/farmed both EX primals, I can safely say that Scholar really has no MP problems. Lucid Dreaming is good but ultimately it was unnecessary. It's just to homogenize healers. Adloquium may cost a lot but in a long fight, you're not really spamming it either. The oGCD Aetherflow heals make up for it.

    My issues are as follows. Fey Union's range is too small and party members leaving the range leaves the fairy healing nothing and wasting gauge. The range should be extended to at least 20, ideally 100 like SMN's bahamut. Putting Eos in the way of danger is just not smart.

    Excogitation is very subject to team play. Often times the co-healer doesn't let the tank drop below 50%. Add in tank CDs and this skill is just too situational. Ultimately you can lustrate shortly after. Granted you can argue this wastes a GCD, but given that this skill is barely better than Lustrate, the potency should be increased and the duration too.
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