Next Job/Jobs Speculation

[Shiro--Tsubasa]

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I was actually referencing how they gain abilities in most of the incarnation that i've seen, sorry for using a vague term.

On another note, that could be their glass mechanic, building up resources by being hit and spending them on damage/mitigation/support. Not stance dancing like other tanks, but by properly using resource management.

[Loyheta]

Whatever they pick I hope they are adding more tanks and healers. FFT has plenty of jobs they can be inspired by.

[Lossless]

Whatever role Blue Mage is, I will follow.

I just want the class in the game

[untilitdies]

All the classes I want in the game are already in; Dark Knight, Monk, Samurai. Red Mage is my favorite class and now I'm pretty much completely satisfied.

Dancer would be nice, but I'm unsure on how they'd make it different than Monk. I can't see it working as a pure healer.

Time Mage would be cool, I'd like to see Gravity spells.

[MomomiMomi]

Time Mage would be cool, I'd like to see Gravity spells.

But we already have Gravity. AST pretty much incorporated Time Mage with abilities like Time Dilation and Celestial Opposition.

[Laughlyn]

everyone suggesting Beastmaster up until this post earned +1 like from me.

[Yin111]

Personally I feel that Shogun for the role of tank, is still within the realm of possibility as is Onmyouji (oracles in english). I feel that since Hingashi is still locked to us, perhaps when it is opened in the future, we could get access to those jobs.

[Kazrah]

Personally I feel that Shogun for the role of tank, is still within the realm of possibility as is Onmyouji (oracles in english). I feel that since Hingashi is still locked to us, perhaps when it is opened in the future, we could get access to those jobs.

We almost got Oracle....

As for Shogun, there's just not enough really to discern it from a Dark Knight in the old Doman armor. Could go on about ability differences or whatnot, but in the end, people would still look at the two standing around together and might not know the difference.

[Yin111]

For Shogun, there's just not enough really to discern it from a Dark Knight in the old Doman armor. Could go on about ability differences or whatnot, but in the end, people would still look at the two standing around together and might not know the difference.

The Orical thing I am aware of, as for Shogun.

Doesn't mean they could not or should not do it. Doman gear is one armor design of samurai based armors, much like how there are many variations of western pate armor. And as for Shogun being indistinguishable from a Dark Knight, again as before we are not devs. We lack the ability to truly imagine the uniqueness of a Job. You are also assuming that Shogun would use a Nodachi (longsword), which may as well, not be the case.

Furthermore, the use of a greatsword is to use the mass and momentum of the sword to crush armor and slice the opponent. That much is easily apparent in the animations. Longswords are generally used in a diffrent manner especially in fantasy settings. Often in fantasy settings the longsword is used proffeciantly with little show or hints of mass from the sword in comparison to a great sword which is often as wide and almost as tall as it's user with proper thickness aswell.

And lastly, cultural differences and perceptions rarely stops introductions of subjects or items from other cultures. Have certain elements been changed in the past? Yes of course, but only for subjects that a culture finds griting such as the west's aversion to sexual themes. And the east aversion to excessive violence and blood.

[Kazrah]

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And again....

Could go on about ability differences or whatnot, but in the end, people would still look at the two standing around together and might not know the difference.

The only reason why most people want Shogun is because they wanted Samurai to be a tank like how it was in FFXI. They wanted a character in heavy armor with a big sword, a.k.a. Dark Knight in eastern attire. This is what I meant by that quote.

Now you could have Shogun working more with a tactician theme and have them as rearguard support combatants to reflect that, and I know at least one person on the forums proposed that idea some time ago. Otherwise, if it's too close to looking like Samurai or too close to looking like that Dark Knight in Doman gear, then odds are that the job doesn't have enough of a degree of individuality to be adequately represented.

As for the whole thing about "lacking the ability to truly imagine the uniqueness of a job", look at all the ideas on this thread and others for Blue Mage, a job that Yoshi has repeatedly said "no" to, yet even in this thread we see a slew of ideas for a job that would actually have a higher degree of individuality given its broad range of looks in previous games.