Thread: 4.0 MCH is Weak

Originally Posted by JoeBacon

I'm not at the point where I can comment on MCH, or how it plays, but I would like to say, in case you haven't used BRD since the update: outside Repertoire proc's, BRD doesn't gain any personal benefit from their own songs -the song buff exclusively applies to other party members, from my experience so far. Which, in turn, means Battle Voice and Troubadour wouldn't personally benefit them, either -they only have effect on those with that BRD's song buff, according to their tooltips. I'm also not seeing the 3% damage for 24s every 150s, unless that's the estimated time for full mana drain and recovery for Foe's Requiem (barring Refresh).

Everything you said just supports my points. BRD does not benefit from crit up and battle voice and they still do more damage then MCH. The whole point is as I said, BRD has more raid utility, more raid DPS abilities, and more personal DPS. As for foes that is the calculated time WITH refresh, 24~27s.

Originally Posted by Ephier

Everything you said just supports my points. BRD does not benefit from crit up and battle voice and they still do more damage then MCH. The whole point is as I said, BRD has more raid utility, more raid DPS abilities, and more personal DPS. As for foes that is the calculated time WITH refresh, 24~27s.

Just wanted to ensure you had current info. That is a bit of a disappointment, though. I started with Thaumaturge, because before Stormblood, both Bard and Mechanist had a large part of their damage potential locked behind skills that made them have cast times, so I figured I might as well go all the way with it, and was really looking forward to playing as Mechanist once I saw the skill changes planned for Stormblood, shortly before early access started. It really should be that Mechanist gets better personal DPS, since Bard has more party support.