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Thread: 4.0 MCH is Weak

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    WTF. i was just told that mech. are supposed to be the lowest dps cuz we support.....please remove all our support abilitys and that damm turret and give some GOD DAMM DPS allready...my 62 sam. deals more damage than my mech. on 68 with 68 items...thats just not right in any way....and those support tool well fuck those anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poffo View Post
    WTF. i was just told that mech. are supposed to be the lowest dps cuz we support.....please remove all our support abilitys and that damm turret and give some GOD DAMM DPS allready...my 62 sam. deals more damage than my mech. on 68 with 68 items...thats just not right in any way....and those support tool well fuck those anyway.
    support what support Mch only real support ability is The 5 second 10% dmg the boss does and the 5% dmg increase everyone can do to the boss every blood moon during a fight. A brd has MORE support MORE dmg then a mch currently. hell Dragoon/nin have more support then mch then mch. ANOTHER PLD has pretty much the same dmg as a mch and MORE SUPPORT
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shhikasan View Post
    support what support Mch only real support ability is The 5 second 10% dmg the boss does and the 5% dmg increase everyone can do to the boss every blood moon during a fight. A brd has MORE support MORE dmg then a mch currently. hell Dragoon/nin have more support then mch then mch. ANOTHER PLD has pretty much the same dmg as a mch and MORE SUPPORT
    Yea thats what im fucked up about...let us be PURE range dps like Sam. is to melee then...fuck support i want DPS om my Cannons ....now i finaly undestand why the game dont have parsers or dam. meters...the dps driffrence is stupid. And on another note sam. is way way easyer to play.
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    Last edited by poffo; 07-02-2017 at 02:59 AM.

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    I wonder whether it'd work if there was a grace period of maybe two globals before the barrel actually overheated. The whole gauge could pulse red alerting you and you could then hit Cooldown to back off or let the countdown finish and intentionally overheat. That'd solve the "I was avoiding certain death and accidentally hit Split Shot and now my gun's melting."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scalio View Post
    I wonder whether it'd work if there was a grace period of maybe two globals before the barrel actually overheated. The whole gauge could pulse red alerting you and you could then hit Cooldown to back off or let the countdown finish and intentionally overheat. That'd solve the "I was avoiding certain death and accidentally hit Split Shot and now my gun's melting."
    That would be... problematic. For one it would have a problem with our overheat when we want to overheat for our wildfire. Which means any intentional overheat would go from fluid (arguably what it is now) to clunky.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scalio View Post
    I wonder whether it'd work if there was a grace period of maybe two globals before the barrel actually overheated. The whole gauge could pulse red alerting you and you could then hit Cooldown to back off or let the countdown finish and intentionally overheat. That'd solve the "I was avoiding certain death and accidentally hit Split Shot and now my gun's melting."
    That would be counterproductive to optimal gameplay because contrary to what a lot of MCH think- there is a time and place to overheat and get a DPS increase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scalio View Post
    I wonder whether it'd work if there was a grace period of maybe two globals before the barrel actually overheated. The whole gauge could pulse red alerting you and you could then hit Cooldown to back off or let the countdown finish and intentionally overheat. That'd solve the "I was avoiding certain death and accidentally hit Split Shot and now my gun's melting."
    A lot of people have an issue with overheating, this imo comes from lack of practice. You should always know where your heat is at and work from there. If you use your ammo on CD to include QR heat management should not be an issue.
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    Hildi Freiherr
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    Being aware of your heat level is indeed practice. It worked a lot better over time. I overheated quite often at the beginning and much lesser at the "end". Mostly I overheat when I don't know the mechanics of the boss to 100%, e.g. keep firing while dodging some attacks and overheat because of that. You have to watch your heat level a lot but it gets better and knowing the mechanics of an encounter also helps a lot.
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    It's the weakest by far
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    Im currently maining as a MCH in SB, personally i dont have to much trouble but i do admit i have to literally glue my eyes on the heat meter and the Hot Shot buff, one tiny slip and a huge chunk of dps disappears straight out of the window. This combined with dealing with boss mechanics aswell, it becomes a chaos of things to control and handle at the same time. To make it easier, i would suggest to gain like 5 heat instead of 10 for each shot, put the Hot Shot buff visible on the Heat Gauge and maybe buff the potency from heated slightly more. Other than that im pretty satisfied with the way they are working atm and playing around / planning with Reload and Quick Reload is still a enjoyable part of it. also, i have never touched Rook Overload. I dont even have it on my bars cause it makes no sense to me that i want to "sacrifice" my turret for a tiny little boom.....
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