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  1. #21
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    TristanBlane's Avatar
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    Crucius Lapin
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    <3 AST is amazing. The moves the effects the design. The only thing I wish is they made more of their card move names more mystical and tarot like. I don't like the name "Sleeve Draw" and I heard a bunch of people throwing around the "Grand Cross" or whatever, the tarot spread and that would've been a beautiful name.
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  2. #22
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    Elamys's Avatar
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    Song Sparrow
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    Balmung
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Yeah, a lot of the ability names in relation to cards don't make sense. Undraw should be Discard, Redraw should have remained as Shuffle. Sleeve Draw just sounds weird, makes it seem more gambling-y and Grand Cross would have been neat. After all, Minor Arcana is from tarot cards. They're unlikely to change ability names, though.
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    cerise leclaire
    (bad omnicrafter & terrible astrologian)

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    Furious Laughter
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Elamys View Post
    Yeah, a lot of the ability names in relation to cards don't make sense. Undraw should be Discard, Redraw should have remained as Shuffle. Sleeve Draw just sounds weird, makes it seem more gambling-y and Grand Cross would have been neat. After all, Minor Arcana is from tarot cards. They're unlikely to change ability names, though.
    I don't think there's an implicit problem with any of them except Spread. Undraw and redraw are perfectly fine (undraw isn't the standard word we use in English but it's meaning is perfectly clear), redraw is more appropriate than shuffle really. Spread has no real contextual relevance to what it does; I'd prefer spread be called "hold" or something like that. Sleeve draw definitely sounds more gambling related than I'm sure they were going for, but it still has an appropriate meaning for what it does.
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  4. #24
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    Elamys's Avatar
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    In tarot reading, a layout of cards is called a "Spread," which is where the name comes from.
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    cerise leclaire
    (bad omnicrafter & terrible astrologian)

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    Ven Black
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    Coeurl
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Elamys View Post
    Yeah, a lot of the ability names in relation to cards don't make sense. Undraw should be Discard, Redraw should have remained as Shuffle. Sleeve Draw just sounds weird, makes it seem more gambling-y and Grand Cross would have been neat. After all, Minor Arcana is from tarot cards. They're unlikely to change ability names, though.
    Undraw was just them making the macro most people used into an actual ability. I didn't expect much from the name.

    Redraw used to be called Shuffle, and when they changed it so that you would no longer draw the same card again, they changed the name. I have no earthly idea why they thought the name change was necessary.

    And Sleeve Draw is because i assume they're fusing Gambler into AST as well, just as with GEO.
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  6. #26
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Averax View Post
    Undraw was just them making the macro most people used into an actual ability.
    And it's worse than that because now we have no way to get rid of RR and spread cards, and since the 70 ability gives you all these for 'free'... it's a pain.
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