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    Jetstream_Fox's Avatar
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    Syvic Zivota
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    Bardam's Mettle is nothing more than a tutorial on how to dodge

    This is the easiest fight in the entire game even dating back to 2.0, yet I've been in a number of runs here and have had parties wipe and heard of wiping repeatedly, and even had heated arguments with people due to them not paying attention. I get latency might have some impact, I did after all transfer make a datacenter switch to the EU, but I've heard horror stories and even witnessed them, in my discord people were raging because a healer refused to move and their logic was they could see the AoE during the checkboard phase so they just stood still and hoped for the best.

    I think this game really needs to implement a ranking system similar to how overwatch does ranking, base it entirely off each person's own respective contributions to the group, I know that's never something this community would never go by, but when you see someone refuse to do a simple thing and their response is as ignorant, something somewhere needs to be addressed.
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    Last edited by Jetstream_Fox; 06-21-2017 at 06:58 AM.

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    Doctor Fumbles
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    What? Granted, when my party first did that fight we were like what the hell is going on, but we dodged everything just fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrasper View Post
    What? Granted, when my party first did that fight we were like what the hell is going on, but we dodged everything just fine.
    A lot of people will be like that since there has never been a fight that is purely dodging. It does test your reaction for sure, but I kid you not, I seen wipes on it, my second run was a disaster, I had 3 new people and the tank wouldn't let me explain the basics of it to anyone so we wiped, and even after I did get words in, the Sam we had just nonchalantly walked out of things and still got hit.
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    Dement Drachte
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox View Post
    A lot of people will be like that since there has never been a fight that is purely dodging. It does test your reaction for sure, but I kid you not, I seen wipes on it, my second run was a disaster, I had 3 new people and the tank wouldn't let me explain the basics of it to anyone so we wiped, and even after I did get words in, the Sam we had just nonchalantly walked out of things and still got hit.
    The question remains that if its so easy but you're seeing repeated wipes.... why are you getting hit by easily dodged mechanics? Only one person has to pass and to fail you have to get hit twice. No explanation is needed for don't stand in AoE markers and I wouldn't have stopped to explain that either if I were that tank.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox View Post
    Just because it's entirely soloable doesn't mean 3 other people should flat out refuse. If we have to carry people through fights like this why even have group content?
    I'd rather have the ability to carry 3 other people through content than a normal fight where if the healer or the tank goes down early to easily dodged mechanics then it's a guaranteed wipe no matter how good you are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dement View Post
    The question remains that if its so easy but you're seeing repeated wipes.... why are you getting hit by easily dodged mechanics? Only one person has to pass and to fail you have to get hit twice. No explanation is needed for don't stand in AoE markers and I wouldn't have stopped to explain that either if I were that tank.



    I'd rather have the ability to carry 3 other people through content than a normal fight where if the healer or the tank goes down early to easily dodged mechanics then it's a guaranteed wipe no matter how good you are.
    I didn't say repeated, I had one wipe and have heard of others. And I explained how my wipe went down. Never in any post did I say I have issues with it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Smol View Post
    Doesn't it only take one person doing the mechanics correctly to pass?

    That aside, I personally find the "fight" to be pretty fun and creative, and I hope SE continues to implement more unorthodox dungeon segments.
    Ya everyone needs to get hit, and I enjoy it, I initially thought it was going to be sephirot 2nd phase, but I was wrong lol.
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    Last edited by Jetstream_Fox; 06-21-2017 at 07:00 AM.

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    Urien Spectrum
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox View Post
    A lot of people will be like that since there has never been a fight that is purely dodging. It does test your reaction for sure, but I kid you not, I seen wipes on it, my second run was a disaster, I had 3 new people and the tank wouldn't let me explain the basics of it to anyone so we wiped, and even after I did get words in, the Sam we had just nonchalantly walked out of things and still got hit.
    If your entire part has wipped to it, then your entire party is bad in general, especially considering only ONE person has to pass each test.
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    Vahette Lauclaire
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    That fight is great. It shows just how bad people are at the mechanics we've seen a billion times, and yet it existing may actually cause even a small number of people to improve. Honestly, they should've done that kind of fight sooner as a mechanics crash-course, but better late than never.
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    Rena Kangawa
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    I love that "fight". I got hit atlast once everytime I did this so far but I will make a flawless run someday!
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    Thyn'a Sindyrl
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    Lol best fight in the game 10/10

    Its the get gud fight.
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    Vespereaux Vaillantes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anarnee View Post
    Lol best fight in the game 10/10

    Its the get gud fight.
    Less "git gud" and more "please be basically competent and stop watching Netflix while running stuff".
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