*Spoilers* Zenos MSQ

[Pinkie_Pie]

I am enjoying the fact that people are dying and failing that scenario against him, unlike other bosses we can easily flick our finger saying Justice and they just die but not him, I've had the novice chat/shout/FC cry out asking advice on how to pass him. Also good point, you got no NPC healing when you are low like the old MSQ.

[Roth_Trailfinder]

Not sure what fight you refer to, but that may be because I am only on the steppe and have not done everything as yet. But that said, as a Monk, I did not find any of the story fights difficult to this point, regardless of the presence of a healer (or lack thereof).

[EdwinLi]

Not sure what fight you refer to, but that may be because I am only on the steppe and have not done everything as yet. But that said, as a Monk, I did not find any of the story fights difficult to this point, regardless of the presence of a healer (or lack thereof).

Oh you will find out soon once you get to fight Zenos and he goes Lu Bu on you.

[kattzkitti]

The Zenos fights (all of them) are easily one of the worst parts of the expansion. Design is garbage, just straight up craps on jobs that don't have innate sustain while being incredibly tedious for those that do. The first fight literally took me almost half an hour to complete. I was wearing full i260 left, full i270 right, and equipped with i260 Anima. Full raid gear... but thanks to the horrible design of the fight, I had no choice but to just maintain regen on myself while letting Combust slowly chip away at his absurd health pool since some dev had the bright idea to make him level 70 in a level 61/62 solo duty.

[Laerad3993]

The Zenos fights (all of them) are easily one of the worst parts of the expansion. Design is garbage, just straight up craps on jobs that don't have innate sustain while being incredibly tedious for those that do. The first fight literally took me almost half an hour to complete. I was wearing full i260 left, full i270 right, and equipped with i260 Anima. Full raid gear... but thanks to the horrible design of the fight, I had no choice but to just maintain regen on myself while letting Combust slowly chip away at his absurd health pool since some dev had the bright idea to make him level 70 in a level 61/62 solo duty.

I mean, I thought all of them were one of the best things about it, and I play an AST. So to each their own, lol. Heavens forbid the WOL actually gets their butt kicked by the Villain. I like that, I don't like to just faceroll content, I actually liked the dynamic between Zenos and my character, especially at the very end of the MSQ.

[EdwinLi]

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then they met the design they were aiming for.

Zenos fights are made to make the player feel weak compared to Zenos actual level of power. We're not meant to put up a fight but to struggle in these fights against someone who is stronger than the WoL at these points in the storyline.

[Hyrist]

The Zenos fights (all of them) are easily one of the worst parts of the expansion. Design is garbage, just straight up craps on jobs that don't have innate sustain ...

All jobs have innate sustain now thanks to cross-class skills. So you may want to reassess your stance.

[kattzkitti]

All jobs have innate sustain now thanks to cross-class skills. So you may want to reassess your stance.

A small heal on a long cooldown isn't sustain.

[Pinkie_Pie]

A small heal on a long cooldown isn't sustain.

Bloodbath, second wind and dodging