AFK in PVP

[Fonkyama]

Incentive for winning isn't a solution. Not when winning depends on so many other people.

PvP simply gives too much xp for now. Why bother running dungeons or fates when you can get 600-700k xp in 10min with almost instant queues? Give less xp and only people who care about pvp and who wants an alternative for leveling their alts will use it. The others will return to Fates/dungeons.

[Serilda]

PvP simply gives too much xp for now. Why bother running dungeons or fates when you can get 600-700k xp in 10min with almost instant queues? Give less xp and only people who care about pvp and who wants an alternative for leveling their alts will use it. The others will return to Fates/dungeons.

The queues are still long out of hours (I went through five hours of waiting two nights ago!) so the last thing I want is for people to return to the soul-destroying monotony of dungeon roulette when they could be PVPing and boosting my queue times. Please don't wreck things for people on data centres without a cheating epidemic - I'd rather the cheaters were dealt with more effectively and the legitimate new PVPers were still encouraged to give it a try. Encouraging active participation (and consequently, winning) for more rewards is how everything works in PVE, why not in PVP too?

[Fynlar]

Well, with EXP being equal regardless of result, you're just trading in one problem (lack of people queueing) for another (lack of people giving a shit).

On my server at least, I don't really see any GC winning noticeably more often than the others, not since the advent of the "freelancer" option that I imagine the vast majority of people are using to try to get a faster queue.

[SenorPatty]

Like I said, pvp simply needs to be twofold: general pvp (the current system we have now) and competitive pvp for those who are seeking the thrill of peer victory. Until then, we're all going to be lumped together.

[Ashua]

I think it's time that ff 14 stop emulating wow so much. Pvp is so half assed they need to scrap it as is imo. You can cap out tomes and levels while afk. Pretty damn broken.

[Synrin]

I think it's time that ff 14 stop emulating wow so much. Pvp is so half assed they need to scrap it as is imo. You can cap out tomes and levels while afk. Pretty damn broken.

How do you think they 'emulating WoW'?

Honest question.

[SolidsnakeMgs5]

This is a big problem to be honest, trying to get my last few GARO wins and people in masses will afk at the base and be passive aggressive about their "contributions". Nobody will kick them whenever requested.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

Nothing wrong with it. PvP frontlines isn't real PvP anyways. Blame square for awarding that much exp. I'm afk in a match right now lol

Possible attempt to troll aside, I'd like to point out the open contempt for PvP here, and note that this has been a rather predominant thing for far too long.

It's no secret that PvP has been largely unpopular with the XIV playerbase - largely due to misunderstanding, anxiety in the face of competitive gameplay, and negative stigmas based on bad experiences (in XIV and other MMOs with PvP). But the idea that you can do in PvP, ethically what would be frowned upon and a reportable offense in any PvE content is absolutely wrong, and a huge insult to those who actually gave PvP a chance and found something quite enjoyable, even before the changes.

Worse still is blaming SE for finally trying to do right by a playerbase/content that has gone largely neglected or minimally supported though ARR and Heavensward. Awarding XP for PvP isn't a problem. People who wouldn't touch PvP besides exploiting the XP gains by queueing up and not participating IS a problem, and there's no excuse for doing it.

As it stands, the best thing you can do is kick the afks. Advise those who don't know any better that "base guarding" generally isn't necessary (especially if you keep your map open and watch enemy movement). And when you see someone blatantly trying to throw, don't attack them. Don't even touch them. Drag the match out. Then kick them before it's over. They want fast easy XP and will screw 7/23 other people out of it. . . Show them that won't be tolerated.

[Ashua]

There is something to be said for just owning up to being that kind of person. It's not anything good, though, that is for certain.

I have done very little frontlines so far this xpac, but this is a problem in Feast as well, people just running in and, for lack of a better term, feeding kills, respawning, and doing it again. It seems even more offensive to me there, as it lasts a maximum of 8 minutes. If you can't spare 8 minutes of your time in a game, I can't imagine how insufferable you must be in real life.

Might not personally like it but itleast this person is upfront and direct over the rest of people who afk/bot and just all around find ways to cheese the game while pretending otherwise.