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  1. #51
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    wow meleena you don't have a 50 class and still don't agree with this. wow how much gil did us r50's pay you for your silence? did we give you some nm gear or something? or maybe, just maybe, you are one of the people that enjoys playing mmo's and enjoy the idea of having to work to level up your character.

    yes, i was saying this in joking, but there are those of us who enjoy the grinding and working to level up multiple classes.
    i haven't touched my pug besides to do nm's since right after i capped it so i am working on my thm now which is a r40 so don't use the being 50 is why i disagree. i am using a class that is not 50 atm so your argument is weak at best. i just do not want to see everyone get all classes to 50 this soon after release and then leave the game because there is nothing to do. if you can't understand this point then you may as well go play a rpg with one class you can level 1 hr a week. even more like what is being asked is to go do an action adventure that way you don't have to level your character up. just so i don't have to explain it again later since my thm is 40 i would get the double sp the same as you guys so what reason other than i mentioned would have me against it? it's called using your brain that if a company wants to make you want to stay with the game for a long time they don't let you have/get everything in a month.
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    Frisque Isamidget
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    IMO I think SP gains are fine as is. Get a 3-person leve link going with Guardian's and you're getting not-too-shabby SP even with tier 1 fatigue.

    I just don't understand why people are in such a goddamned hurry to get to cap anyway.... not like it unlocks Super Happy Fun Fest OMG Yippee Dungeons or anything... O.o
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  3. #53
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    wow meleena you don't have a 50 class and still don't agree with this. wow how much gil did us r50's pay you for your silence? did we give you some nm gear or something? or maybe, just maybe, you are one of the people that enjoys playing mmo's and enjoy the idea of having to work to level up your character.
    RPG's has been my favorite type of games since I was 15 (14 years ago) and I like these type of games because they offer me certain things.
    If you take away these things then they will not be the games I loved playing since I was a kid.
    Being able to actually "grow" your character and gain affection with him, learn to play and actually be him are things that "modern" MMOs took away these days.

    Don't get me wrong, I don't like endless farming and grinding, but theres always a sweet spot and as FFXIV is right now, it's exactly at that point where you don't take forever to level and at the same time makes you able to have a nice "growing" feeling.

    There is no need to speed things up more right now, they are already fast enough.
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  4. #54
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    I just hit rank 50, took me 6 months because i refused to grind and stuck to leves and then i slacked off a lot between Nov>Feb when SP was bad.

    I wouldnt care at all if someone got rank 1-50 in a week on multiple jobs, it doesnt affect my gameplay at all and i'd have the opportunity as well.

    Though I think SP is fine because if you put your mind to it you can get it, hell my friend just started archer and after 3 weeks of just pure leves hes already 37 lol, though thats not even half way to 50 another 3 weeks and hes there, so a casual player doing just leves can hit 50 in 6 weeks very easily.

    I wouldnt mind it changing but i wouldnt mind it staying. If you play casual stick to leves and you're just gunna have to fail the best ones if you want to get up faster. SE will eventually make more content and more ways to level and more guildleves so its unavoidable that sooner or later, leveling will be upped a little. (Probably bring out XP rings and stuff like from XI)

    Also how did this get moved to site feedback?
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  5. #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laughlyn View Post

    You can do 1-20 in 24 hours, either learn to play or find another game.
    Actually, you can do 1-20 in 3 hours, with a decent party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rentahamster View Post
    Actually, you can do 1-20 in 3 hours, with a decent party.
    Dont even need a PT just muleboost XD Can do it in about 1hr.
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  7. #57
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    When the game started there you could see hardly any progress to your character, that was an example of bad EXP - SP distributing.
    The best is when you can actualy feel that youre making some progress while still taking some time to reach max.
    This is where FFXIV is right now, that's why I want it to stay like this.
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    Agree with Meleena...

    Right now if I log in to play for an hour or two I make very noticeable progress on my character. And with the amount/variety of content, if ranking up came any faster I'm not sure what we'd all be doing a month from now....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eiyaya View Post
    I want to reach 50 in less then 1 month of casual playing. I don't want to reach 50 with a casual playing time in 12 months.
    What exactly do you plan on doing when you reach 50....?

    If you can get one class to 50 playing casual, then someone with more time would likely have 10 classes at 50 in a month.

    I'm sure that at some point in the future when the rank cap is increased and there is more content that can be enjoyed at high ranks that the leveling curve will be accelerated. But right now the game is the leveling curve, so what you're asking for is a game that provides you with a couple months of casual playtime. Doesn't seem like a very good strategy for where FFXIV is at.
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    Last edited by Naylia; 03-16-2011 at 02:54 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eiyaya View Post
    please teach me how to get a level a day without grinding on 8k per hour with behest only give 2-3k experience consider the amount of players available for behest is low.

    Beside guild war is another story. We are in FFXIV, this game have a lot of JOBS. MMORPG is all about end game and whatever after.

    Consider this as well, if you level 1-50 takes 2-3 months, what you expect with new expansion? 51-60 going to take 2-3 month assume that xp need is what 1-50 need, then 61-70 going to take more.

    The current learning curve is very steep much like FFXI before with the level 50. Whoever played FFXI @ level 50-75 when the cap was releasing can tell you how horrible 50-60 was. which is why they re-adjusted it at the end.

    and nephara you don't even have a level 30 character yet. @ 30 you need 31k to level. @ 36 you need 60k to level.

    http://www.eorzeapedia.com/wiki/en/Skill_Points/Chart

    Consider this fact, you still get 100 SP per kill @ 29 vs @ 35. Some newer leve give 200sp and most monsters give 100 sp.

    from 30-50 you need 1.4 million Sp (1 400 000) about 14 000 cobyn, well it is better then grinding 1 millions pigs. The fighting is so long, it takes 1 min per fight (prepare and rest accounted) then that is about 14 000 min, which is 233.333 hours about 10 real life day.

    but let's assume a casual player like me, who can only offer 10 hour per week. it will takes 23.3 weeks (or half a year) to get from 31-50.

    Do that for 7 more jobs as well.

    and please prepare to level 51-99 and also 7 more jobs.

    Don't forget crafting~
    I think the problem is that you aren't leveling efficiently or using all the options available to you. If you are only getting ~200 sp in your leves you aren't doing them well. I know from experience that if you get 4 people in a party with no level penalties and fully link your leve you can get up to 900+ sp per mob. On a leve like Necrologos: Levinshower you could get a quick 10k+ sp boost doing something like this. If you get a group of 8 people all with the same leve you can run this twice this way with full links each time. Obviously it isn't always easy to get groups like this together, but that is what your linkshell and friendlist are for. Organize times for getting together to share leves.

    Aside from leve runs you can run behest, although currently they are really disorganized and allow players with any level to join which can reduce your sp. I would leave behest as just something to do to mix things up so you are not constantly doing leves or grinding.

    The next best option if you've run out of leves but what to keep leveling is to grab a group of 4 players and go grind on some higher level mobs. Right now @r43-46 I have been getting together with players to grind on some mobs that are giving us ~300sp per kill. With four of us we kill them pretty quickly so if we are killing about 1.25 per minute then we are getting (300 * 1.25 * 60) ~22,500sp per hour.

    Mixing leves, behest, and grind will help you diversify your leveling experience so it doesn't become too monotonous and also give you quite a lot of sp at a fast pace as long as you are trying to think of ways to maximize your sp/hr and not joining groups that are leveling inefficiently.
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