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    please teach me how to get a level a day without grinding on 8k per hour with behest only give 2-3k experience consider the amount of players available for behest is low.

    Beside guild war is another story. We are in FFXIV, this game have a lot of JOBS. MMORPG is all about end game and whatever after.

    Consider this as well, if you level 1-50 takes 2-3 months, what you expect with new expansion? 51-60 going to take 2-3 month assume that xp need is what 1-50 need, then 61-70 going to take more.

    The current learning curve is very steep much like FFXI before with the level 50. Whoever played FFXI @ level 50-75 when the cap was releasing can tell you how horrible 50-60 was. which is why they re-adjusted it at the end.

    and nephara you don't even have a level 30 character yet. @ 30 you need 31k to level. @ 36 you need 60k to level.

    http://www.eorzeapedia.com/wiki/en/Skill_Points/Chart

    Consider this fact, you still get 100 SP per kill @ 29 vs @ 35. Some newer leve give 200sp and most monsters give 100 sp.

    from 30-50 you need 1.4 million Sp (1 400 000) about 14 000 cobyn, well it is better then grinding 1 millions pigs. The fighting is so long, it takes 1 min per fight (prepare and rest accounted) then that is about 14 000 min, which is 233.333 hours about 10 real life day.

    but let's assume a casual player like me, who can only offer 10 hour per week. it will takes 23.3 weeks (or half a year) to get from 31-50.

    Do that for 7 more jobs as well.

    and please prepare to level 51-99 and also 7 more jobs.

    Don't forget crafting~
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    Last edited by Eiyaya; 03-15-2011 at 01:31 PM.

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    Hale Storm
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    Archer Lv 70
    Oh almost forgot....

    There's also an "Elemental Wheel" in place, this explains wich elements beats the other.

    The information can also be found in books located in the Conjurer & Thaumaturge's guilds.

    * Fire melts Ice , but is extinguished by Wind .
    * Water erodes Earth , but is boiled by Lightning.
    * Lightning boils Water, but is grounded by Earth .
    * Wind extinguishes Fire, but is obstructed by Ice .
    * Earth grounds Lightning, but is eroded by Water.
    * Ice obstructs Wind , but is melted by Fire.

    Easy Version...

    Fire » Ice » Wind » (fire again)

    Lightning » Water » Earth » (Lightning again)

    Im not 100% sure about the Thaumaturge elementals thou.
    But im sure it's Light & Dark.
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    i believe thm actually has it named astral and umbral.

    astral = light
    unbral = dark
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    Ah yes, ty!

    I remembered Astral but forgot the other one (umbral)

    im sure its somewhat related to the Conjurers Elemental wheel aswell.
    But i cant really tell wich of the 2 are dark / light.

    Have to get back on that once server pop.
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    astral is the light such as dia and unbral is the dark such as damnation
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laughlyn View Post
    But i cant really tell wich of the 2 are dark / light.
    As I understand the wheel:

    Astral= Wind, Lightning, Fire
    Umbral= Water, Ice, Earth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fieros View Post
    As I understand the wheel:

    Astral= Wind, Lightning, Fire
    Umbral= Water, Ice, Earth
    you may be correct but for some reason i thought it was

    astral = wind, water, ice
    umbral - fire, lightning, earth

    i am kind of new to thm because i use it in leve parties and haven't gotten into the more intricate parts of it so i may be completely off base on my guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eiyaya View Post
    please teach me how to get a level a day without grinding on 8k per hour with behest only give 2-3k experience consider the amount of players available for behest is low.

    Beside guild war is another story. We are in FFXIV, this game have a lot of JOBS. MMORPG is all about end game and whatever after.

    Consider this as well, if you level 1-50 takes 2-3 months, what you expect with new expansion? 51-60 going to take 2-3 month assume that xp need is what 1-50 need, then 61-70 going to take more.

    The current learning curve is very steep much like FFXI before with the level 50. Whoever played FFXI @ level 50-75 when the cap was releasing can tell you how horrible 50-60 was. which is why they re-adjusted it at the end.

    and nephara you don't even have a level 30 character yet. @ 30 you need 31k to level. @ 36 you need 60k to level.

    http://www.eorzeapedia.com/wiki/en/Skill_Points/Chart

    Consider this fact, you still get 100 SP per kill @ 29 vs @ 35. Some newer leve give 200sp and most monsters give 100 sp.

    from 30-50 you need 1.4 million Sp (1 400 000) about 14 000 cobyn, well it is better then grinding 1 millions pigs. The fighting is so long, it takes 1 min per fight (prepare and rest accounted) then that is about 14 000 min, which is 233.333 hours about 10 real life day.

    but let's assume a casual player like me, who can only offer 10 hour per week. it will takes 23.3 weeks (or half a year) to get from 31-50.

    Do that for 7 more jobs as well.

    and please prepare to level 51-99 and also 7 more jobs.

    Don't forget crafting~
    I think the problem is that you aren't leveling efficiently or using all the options available to you. If you are only getting ~200 sp in your leves you aren't doing them well. I know from experience that if you get 4 people in a party with no level penalties and fully link your leve you can get up to 900+ sp per mob. On a leve like Necrologos: Levinshower you could get a quick 10k+ sp boost doing something like this. If you get a group of 8 people all with the same leve you can run this twice this way with full links each time. Obviously it isn't always easy to get groups like this together, but that is what your linkshell and friendlist are for. Organize times for getting together to share leves.

    Aside from leve runs you can run behest, although currently they are really disorganized and allow players with any level to join which can reduce your sp. I would leave behest as just something to do to mix things up so you are not constantly doing leves or grinding.

    The next best option if you've run out of leves but what to keep leveling is to grab a group of 4 players and go grind on some higher level mobs. Right now @r43-46 I have been getting together with players to grind on some mobs that are giving us ~300sp per kill. With four of us we kill them pretty quickly so if we are killing about 1.25 per minute then we are getting (300 * 1.25 * 60) ~22,500sp per hour.

    Mixing leves, behest, and grind will help you diversify your leveling experience so it doesn't become too monotonous and also give you quite a lot of sp at a fast pace as long as you are trying to think of ways to maximize your sp/hr and not joining groups that are leveling inefficiently.
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