Double up SP at 25+ please.

[Eiyaya]

Seriously, SE please consider double up SP gain and fatigue threshold at 25+

Long grinding model are close to extinct. No one enjoy a game to grind anymore because there is always other options out there.

Grinding 4-5 hours for 1 level doesn't work, while waiting for 36 hours for 8 leve x 8000sp doesn't work either.

This game need more end game content and less leveling or low level contents.

I want to reach 50 in less then 1 month of casual playing. I don't want to reach 50 with a casual playing time in 12 months.

[Nephera]

oh boy this is going to go well.

to help Eiyaya out a little bit lets take a look at guild wars, a game with a level cap of 20 and plenty of content to do once you've reached 20, enough that the game was able to produce several expansions and can still afford to do events every year with new items, and even expand its business with a shop.

Edit: it also has a linear main story (per expansion) much like this, though you level up while progressing along it rather than independently of it.

[Abriael]

considering it's rather easy to get a level a day even past 40, no. I disagree. It's absolutely silly to see people going from 1 to 50 in less than a month.

[Laughlyn]

Double SP = no freakin Thanks.

Besides, im sure its already possible to level / grind to 1-50 in 4-6weeks.

You can do 1-20 in 24 hours, either learn to play or find another game.

[Eiyaya]

please teach me how to get a level a day without grinding on 8k per hour with behest only give 2-3k experience consider the amount of players available for behest is low.

Beside guild war is another story. We are in FFXIV, this game have a lot of JOBS. MMORPG is all about end game and whatever after.

Consider this as well, if you level 1-50 takes 2-3 months, what you expect with new expansion? 51-60 going to take 2-3 month assume that xp need is what 1-50 need, then 61-70 going to take more.

The current learning curve is very steep much like FFXI before with the level 50. Whoever played FFXI @ level 50-75 when the cap was releasing can tell you how horrible 50-60 was. which is why they re-adjusted it at the end.

and nephara you don't even have a level 30 character yet. @ 30 you need 31k to level. @ 36 you need 60k to level.

http://www.eorzeapedia.com/wiki/en/Skill_Points/Chart

Consider this fact, you still get 100 SP per kill @ 29 vs @ 35. Some newer leve give 200sp and most monsters give 100 sp.

from 30-50 you need 1.4 million Sp (1 400 000) about 14 000 cobyn, well it is better then grinding 1 millions pigs. The fighting is so long, it takes 1 min per fight (prepare and rest accounted) then that is about 14 000 min, which is 233.333 hours about 10 real life day.

but let's assume a casual player like me, who can only offer 10 hour per week. it will takes 23.3 weeks (or half a year) to get from 31-50.

Do that for 7 more jobs as well.

and please prepare to level 51-99 and also 7 more jobs.

Don't forget crafting~

[Honz]

R 1-50 in a month is not as absurd as people are making it out to be.

Current SP system is just fine, but the current party system needs some more tweaking.

[darkstarpoet1]

i agree with half, but not the other half.

i believe the amount of sp to reach fatigue is way too low. i usually have at least 5 classes faituged each week so i am constantly a gold member lol. i just hate when i come off fatigue one day and that night i fatigue it again after one good leve party.

i do not like the double sp gain idea at all. there is already many ways to get huge amounts of sp in just a few hours that there is no need to increase the amount gained anymore.

[Eiyaya]

share your ways of leveling then.

Like i said, you won't feel it until you see an expansion. in FFXI, i can level 1-50 in 2 REAL life day (not game day). but 1-50 was quite long when you first started to play.

[Nephera]

Beside guild war is another story. We are in FFXIV, this game have a lot of JOBS. MMORPG is all about end game and whatever after.

My point was that guild wars is almost entirely endgame and is a success jeeze.

edit: you are aware that grouping lets you take down monsters that give more sp and that post 30 group play will probably rocket you along to the end.

right?

[Laughlyn]

Leveling craft-classes requires budget to level fast, Leves & Random grind-runs are best for Gathering classes.

For battleclasses, its more or less easier...
Solo isnt the best option to super grind,but duo or trio is more or less awesome.

Now im not gonna do this by any level to level rate, but just mere suggestions.

* Behest with 1-2 friends (where not many players are located at the time)
* find the best area with lot of mobs that dosent take more than 2min /kill.
* Know your & your party members classes, and especially your enemy.

What i mean by that above one is, learn (remember) how the mob fights/acts,
what it will do after a few seconds into the fight...

All monster gain TP for each landed hit on it, and sooner or later will execute a TP skill.
(if you know when, you can stop it or predict when it will be executed)

There's also another thing to consider if playing mage, learn wich spells is most useful to opposite elements.
Like if you fight a "Pudding" mob, they change their elemental status/defence randomly during the fight.
As Mage you must counter attack with the opposite spell in order to avoid healing it by mistake.
(becasue you picked wrong element to attack with)

So ya there's alot of hidden things many (especially new players) dont know about.

One last thing, use "AoE" cauiously, and if you are a mage always know whats behind / around you.
There's no reason for a Mage just to stand around healing if the mage have sleep and can prevent other
nearby mobs to aggro on the currently active fight.

(so ya, the Sleep spell is there for a reason, as is Chainspell)

- Sorry for any typos