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Thread: Please buff WHM

  1. #41
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    Nobuyuki_Sanada's Avatar
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    DPS tips

    As for damage, this to me has never been a huge priority. Do damage when you can but not at the risk of your party. With this in mind, its always safe to use your DoTs. Aero 3 and Aero 2 are great for dealing damage without stopping you from healing. Assize is another great AOE damage ability that should be used off cool down it instant heals and gives mana. Give up your dreams of topping the DPS charts, you are EXTRA damage not THE damage. Another tip is combining presence of mind and thin air for holy spam.
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  2. #42
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    White Mage Lv 90

    Role skills

    Main Role skills
    -Largesse 20% healing with HoTs is OP
    -Swiftcast a must for Rez
    -Lucid Dreaming don't like putting my MP in the hands of others and reduces enimity
    -Protect pure damage mitigation
    -Esuna for status effects

    Others
    -Rescue good as an off healer to replace esuna or protect
    -Eye for an Eye ^
    -Cleric Stance if i had enough confidence in the main healer i would take this instead of Largesse for extra damage
    -Break low damage and heavy not helpful in most boss fights, more of a solo skill
    -Surecast I dont like this skill as if your worried about status effects take esuna and the knockback resistance is very situational.

    Hope this helps all you fellow WHM out there!!!
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    Laurent Vestra
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    Quote Originally Posted by giantslayer View Post
    WHM: my new toys aren't very good, except for Thin Air.
    SCH: our AOE capabilities were cut 50+%, our Aetherflow MP recovery was cut in half, our faerie heals were decreased 16% (on top of the 33% nerf we got in Heavensward), AND our new toys aren't that great.

    I'm kinda sick of hearing white mages complain. The grass there looks pretty green from where I'm standing.
    Honestly, I agree with this a hundred percent. The devs have acknowledged the problems whms have meanwhile we are ignored currently. I'd rather play a whm than a sch at this point bc you guys don't really have a potency issue at all. At least you can heal, dps, and have your mp too! But hey, perhaps they should have given sch the lily system. That way when they turned us into an unreliable healing class, we could place them on our own graves.
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    Last edited by Anselmet; 06-22-2017 at 03:06 AM.

  4. #44
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    Leon Winters
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawrz View Post
    Really? Especially on WHM you should have ZERO reason not to. You are GUARANTEED 7 seconds of dps uptime EVERY pull. Holy. Aoe stun. Best mitigation in the game. 0 damage taken for 4 seconds. How do I know you have time to dps? Because my husband leveled up whm for this expac. Even with back to back pulls in leveling content, where gear is HQ whites, between holy, tetra, cd reduced benediction, cure II cuz delete cure at this point, DB and allot of swearing he NEVER let a tank die.

    People need to step it up or pull the Yoshi-P healer DPS card.
    I've been doing a lot of dungeons since early access (helping my guildies with their Sams and Reds) and I've seen that either mob damage was increased, tank defense was reduced or suddenly every tank sucks.

    The first one is unlikely since, well, who would bother buffing the damage of Dusk/Stone Vigil mobs?, and the third is obviously wrong. My personal theory is that tanks got their defence nerfed to balance it with Tenacity and to increase the difficulty a little bit. But I digress.

    My point was that I've seen tanks go from 90% to 15% in a single GCD. So yes, the gear and personal skill of a tank matters and those things will determine if I'll be able to DPS or if I'll have to spam Cure II on them like there's no tomorrow.

    Obviously they are the exception to the rule (in my experience they're really common but I might just be unlucky), but they're still there and we've got to adapt our play style to them.

    In the grand scheme of things dungeons may be irrelevant and once people starts overgearing them we'll think they're no more difficult than the level 10 guildhests, but the truth is that there will always be tanks who will need some baby sitting, so there may still be occasions when the healer will have no choice but heal nearly 100% of the time.
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  5. #45
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    Estellise Valesti
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nobuyuki_Sanada View Post
    -Eye for an Eye good as an off healer to replace esuna or protect
    I'm going to keep saying this until everyone knows.

    You can easily replace Protect after using it at the start of a battle, or in between pulls. Protect SHOULD NOT be on your bars 100% of the time. It is a complete waste. This argument can easily be used for something like Esuna, but Esuna has to be used in battle so you cannot as easily freely switch it. Also, Esuna is nice to have to help people ho make a mistake, or if you screw up yourself.

    That being said E4E is a good boon to have when running dungeons. It isn't great but it's not terrible either, and having something additional to help you is always a plus. No you can't rely on the mitigation, but when it kicks in it's nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanilleFang View Post
    I'm going to keep saying this until everyone knows.

    You can easily replace Protect after using it at the start of a battle, or in between pulls. Protect SHOULD NOT be on your bars 100% of the time. It is a complete waste. This argument can easily be used for something like Esuna, but Esuna has to be used in battle so you cannot as easily freely switch it. Also, Esuna is nice to have to help people ho make a mistake, or if you screw up yourself.

    That being said E4E is a good boon to have when running dungeons. It isn't great but it's not terrible either, and having something additional to help you is always a plus. No you can't rely on the mitigation, but when it kicks in it's nice.
    People will inevitably die during raid progression, so having one healer take Protect is still a good idea, dungeons and stuff? Yea take it off once applied.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanilleFang View Post
    You can easily replace Protect after using it at the start of a battle, or in between pulls. Protect SHOULD NOT be on your bars 100% of the time. It is a complete waste.
    Which is (usually) fine for dungeons, but as soon as the raids come out we're going to want that back on the hotbar for rezzes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shizzle View Post
    THIS on so many levels even Yoshi.P had stated a while back he didnt design WHM's as dps, even in HW raid content the amount of WHM and scholars I carried because they wanted to dps was shockingly stupid. Note to all newbs and scrubs if you want to dps on a healer class roll a caster dps!
    Every good healer knows when you dps or when to heal. If a healer is dpsing then they already made the judgment that they have enough free time to dps and keeping people up isn't a problem. If someone dies then the healer isn't doing his/her job. But that doesn't mean every healer who dps's is a battle healer first that sucks.

    Seriously it's already been talked about a lot on these forums wether it's expected of a healer to dps and I can say I don't care about that, I keep my party alive and well because I know how to heal and what panic spells to use if something unexpected should happen, therefore I dps often because the alternative is standing there doing nothing. And really the only thing everyone in my party should care about is that they are alive and well. That being said, if my tank or me is undergeared and he's dying fast I won't dps. It's a judgment call that a good healers knows which to do at a moments notice
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    I will lilies just increase healing potency on anything.
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