Please buff WHM

[shawnaus17]

I like the change just not strong enough. Give me more CDR and stronger heals.

[LegoTechnic]

The expansion just came out and everyone has entry-level ilvls. As gear level increases your heals will get stronger, so this issue will literally correct itself in time. Potency-wise they actually received quite a few increases already.

Could probably stand to revisit the cooldown reduction amounts, though.

[Risvertasashi]

The expansion just came out and everyone has entry-level ilvls. As gear level increases your heals will get stronger

Doesn't really matter because AST heals will still be even stronger than that.

[Feidam]

Doesn't really matter because AST heals will still be even stronger than that.

Not sure this is correct. The numbers from my equally geared sat/whm do not reflect this. The Ast is close but not stronger. Granted I'm only lvl 60 with those two but the ratio should stay the same. On a heal for heal basis.

[Riyshn]

Not sure this is correct. The numbers from my equally geared sat/whm do not reflect this. The Ast is close but not stronger. Granted I'm only lvl 60 with those two but the ratio should stay the same. On a heal for heal basis.

Did you have a sect active when you were testing that? Part of the issue is the passive healing bonus from the sects.

[Risvertasashi]

Not sure this is correct. The numbers from my equally geared sat/whm do not reflect this. The Ast is close but not stronger. Granted I'm only lvl 60 with those two but the ratio should stay the same. On a heal for heal basis.

You have to take stance bonuses into account. Diurnal grants a 10% bonus to AST heals. Nocturnal, 15%.

Are you remembering to activate your stances before you compare them? Diurnal is basically half-Largesse with 100% uptime and Noct is even stronger than that.

[Riyshn]

A buff wouldn't fix anything. Ignoring the Lilies, WHM's base kit is already fine. The issue with the Lilies is that RNG CDR is a terrible mechanic in general, and is particularly cancerous on healers. With the lily mechanic as it is now, there is likely no set of numbers they could slap onto it that would find a middle ground between "useless" and "completely broken". It's a fundamentally flawed mechanic.

[Sylve]

I like the change just not strong enough. Give me more CDR and stronger heals.

Congratulations on encountering content that you and your party don't overgear by 60+ ilvls?


The general reduction in healer power across the board has me thinking the Devs are trying to nudge healers back in the direction of being actual healers instead of what they ended up as in HW - DPS that occasionally threw a Cure out.
Had many near wipes on trash leveling my Samurai because the healers went full blown DPS mode and thought that Eos or a Regen was enough to keep the tank alive ...

[Shizzle]

Congratulations on encountering content that you and your party don't overgear by 60+ ilvls?


The general reduction in healer power across the board has me thinking the Devs are trying to nudge healers back in the direction of being actual healers instead of what they ended up as in HW - DPS that occasionally threw a Cure out.
Had many near wipes on trash leveling my Samurai because the healers went full blown DPS mode and thought that Eos or a Regen was enough to keep the tank alive ...

THIS on so many levels even Yoshi.P had stated a while back he didnt design WHM's as dps, even in HW raid content the amount of WHM and scholars I carried because they wanted to dps was shockingly stupid. Note to all newbs and scrubs if you want to dps on a healer class roll a caster dps!

[Rawrz]

THIS on so many levels even Yoshi.P had stated a while back he didnt design WHM's as dps, even in HW raid content the amount of WHM and scholars I carried because they wanted to dps was shockingly stupid. Note to all newbs and scrubs if you want to dps on a healer class roll a caster dps!

If you are "carrying" your coheal because you saw them in Cleric Stance, You were probably overhealing. If my coheal didn't dps, then by the gods you better be able to solo heal. Not even solo healing if you count regen/embrace/ogcds so don't feel that accomplished. Push and pull. If you can't show your coheal you are going to dps then why should they heal?