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    Cyrillo Rongway
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    Awkward word order in "Stars in the Dark" dialog

    In the quest Stars in the Dark,
    Hien: To my knowledge no foreigners have ever triumphed, much less participated in a Naadam. But, lack of precedent notwithstanding, I should think we would have good standing to bid them march with us to Doma─should we win.


    The "no x, much less y" feels awkward, and should probably be

    Hien: To my knowledge no foreigners have ever triumphedparticipated, much less participatedtriumphed in a Naadam. But, lack of precedent notwithstanding, I should think we would have good standing to bid them march with us to Doma─should we win.



    Because the set T of foreigners who have triumphed must be a subset of the foreigners P who have participated, and the expression "not x, much less y" should be of the form that doing y requires having done x. Or in other words, to triumph would first require that some have participated, and since none have participated, obviously none have triumphed.

    The current in-game text suggests that (no foreigner has participated) is a consequence of (no foreigner has triumphed), when surely the desired implication is the other way around.
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    Last edited by Rongway; 06-20-2017 at 03:47 PM.
    Error 3102 Club, Order of the 52nd Hour

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    DarthSanguine's Avatar
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    Alexius Scott
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    There's a lot of this in this expansion.
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