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    lol this thread. It's fine, if you don't like red mage just play another job you actually like.

    The job is totally fine. It's super fun, feels fluid and smooth and I'm in love. This coming from a main RDM in FFXI. SE did a really great job.

    Once again, the job is perfectly fine. Don't try to "fix" it if it isn't broken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyla_Esmeraude View Post
    lol this thread. It's fine, if you don't like red mage just play another job you actually like.

    The job is totally fine. It's super fun, feels fluid and smooth and I'm in love. This coming from a main RDM in FFXI. SE did a really great job.

    Once again, the job is perfectly fine. Don't try to "fix" it if it isn't broken.
    I don't know how to edit posts on phone. I just wanted to clarify that I am ok with adding some stuff like someone mentioned something akin to Enspells to spice it up as long as it doesn't change the current job design dramatically. Anything to spice it up a little I'd be curious to see but the job as it is right now is great and I love it.
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    Auto attacks can cancel dual cast. Go to a striking dummy cast jolt the auto attack. Youll lose dual cast immediately.

    But you can stay in melee range as a rdm and never lose your DC is you use it immediately and dont wait. I tested both and you can successfully auto attack while doing your rotation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycofang View Post
    Auto attacks can cancel dual cast. Go to a striking dummy cast jolt the auto attack. Youll lose dual cast immediately.

    But you can stay in melee range as a rdm and never lose your DC is you use it immediately and dont wait. I tested both and you can successfully auto attack while doing your rotation.
    Do you mind making a video to show that? Here's my video showing Dualcast not being canceled with Auto Attacks.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFDcm8yoDfo

    Not that I don't believe. It would be interesting if we had different results.

    Edit: Just to reiterate since these forums can get a bit feisty. Not saying you're wrong! If anything, it's more likely I'm misunderstanding you. Or, there's certain instances that are making auto attacks cancel Dualcast. I know the English tool tip says auto attacks and abilities should cancel it. But, others have stated its one of many errors in translation and should actually read "anything other than AA and abilities." That would be in line with how it tends to work, too.
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    Last edited by SkyCake; 06-24-2017 at 10:24 PM.

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    Ill post once i get off work

    In another 5 hours qq
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycofang View Post
    Ill post once i get off work

    In another 5 hours qq
    Thank you, Psycofang. I suspect that Dualcast may be behaving differently in certain situations (such as attacking a striking dummy). This would be good information to know.
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    I've tested to the contrary, maintained Dualcast past melee on a level 50 dummy, full duration of Dualcast on auto attacks, zero cancellations.

    Dualcast cancels on use of a physical weapon skill, such as Riposte. Not during Auto Attacks. The tooltip is incorrect on this matter.
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    Last edited by Hyrist; 06-24-2017 at 06:04 PM.

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    Tested it again looks like i was wrong and only weapon skills do it.

    Apologies.
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    I think my biggest gripe is that you have a sword and your auto attacks only deal like 80 damage. I'm almost always stacked behind the boss with the group anyway for one reason or another (mechanics, Embolden, etc.), so I'm going to auto attack while I'm there, and I use Displacement / Corps-a-Corps the opposite way of what our RDM teacher told us (to get back into melee, not out of it). It just sucks that 80 damage auto attacks really just reinforces the idea that the sword is basically ornamental as someone else said.

    Quote Originally Posted by Psycofang View Post
    Tested it again looks like i was wrong and only weapon skills do it.

    Apologies.
    For what it's worth, Sprint also breaks it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycofang View Post
    Tested it again looks like i was wrong and only weapon skills do it.

    Apologies.
    No worries, Psycofang! I appreciate the conversation. I hope Squeenix is able to fix the tooltip, soon.
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