Luminary tools- a real achievement

[Kiote]

There are some people who just don't care, and that is fine. For those of us who are upset, our argument is this: Since SE was keeping a log on the number of monsters you killed, they might as well have been keeping track of number of synths/gathers too. It already takes considerably longer to level a DoL/DoH over a DoW/DoM, and those of us who have done it already, essentially have to do it again to earn an achievement. Those who leveled DoM/Dow and killed 100,000 enemies logged into the game and got their achievement, and congratulations to them. Even the folks who leveled all Crafts/DoL to 50 pre-patch, they logged in and got... a Title? Yippee. To get our actual useful items as DoH/DoL, we have to level our jobs over again.

How can you fault SE for not implementing something they had no idea they were going to need? This achievement system was a player request, it was not a planned implementation of the game.

[KingZeus]

gonna take off my boxers now and let myself be free while getting my reindeer suit
have a nice day

[Giant]

first of all, let me turn it on :

/angry-mode ON


There is nothing for free in business world

They took our $$ and delivered unfinished product. <--- they said that not me ;p

SE reputation was very down, they want to gain it back. They said: go play for free till we fix it. Now they fix it and will start billing.

If the game was at this stage at release, kiss-my-a** if they letting you play for FREE

if they closed the servers to fix the game, they should pay back around 20M+/- USD beside that, they'll lose more customers, so they let the game to be something like free which is actually, NOT. We paid

Anyway, Achievement system is something I really like and love But to make it re-roll, this is what I don't like ^-^;

They design the achievement to be SUPER rewardable to ppl who will just start leveling : 20 gather @ Grade-1, then 300 gather @ grade-2 ... etc

/angry-mode OFF

Have a nice day guys ^-^

[Orophin]

Well on the plus side, I get to redocument which fish like which baits now as they have changed a bit. (truly no sarcasm here)

And while it's not something I'd do or condone, you can auto fish in the regular waters, as it doesn't require you to specifically fish from schools you'd search for with Gulleye. But there's also spearfishing achievements, so I'm going to go around and fish these areas up and hopefully make some money in the progress. (already collected about 50 purple dyes last night and some of the GC provision fish to turn in for seals)

I can get why people that are capped are upset, but this just wasn't one of the stats SE tracked. It's no secret they tend to lean more towards the favor of DoW/DoM classes. if you really want the reward you'll put the time towards it. I know I will. It's my goal to be server first for the fishing rod.

[SynysterBlitz]

Well on the plus side, I get to redocument which fish like which baits now as they have changed a bit. (truly no sarcasm here)

And while it's not something I'd do or condone, you can auto fish in the regular waters, as it doesn't require you to specifically fish from schools you'd search for with Gulleye. But there's also spearfishing achievements, so I'm going to go around and fish these areas up and hopefully make some money in the progress. (already collected about 50 purple dyes last night and some of the GC provision fish to turn in for seals)

I can get why people that are capped are upset, but this just wasn't one of the stats SE tracked. It's no secret they tend to lean more towards the favor of DoW/DoM classes. if you really want the reward you'll put the time towards it. I know I will. It's my goal to be server first for the fishing rod.

I like the longterm goals but sucks when I have already done them.. and I know alot of people with 50 DoH/DoL may seem bitter but wouldn't you be as well if you did invest lots of time.. especially BEFORE they abolished the faitigue system.. I know I will be working for the GSM Tool, because that is my main craft and I do like long term goals.. but thats alot of synths to do at 50..

I'd be ok with just redoing the 41-50 recipes.. but 1-40 is just gonna be some huge time sink, that will just enable the type of gameplay thats unintuitive where you spam Hasty Hand and mindlessy press one button well this way it would be enter,enter,enter,up,enter.. I plan on achieving the 41-50 acheivement overtime by creating gear for melding and bonding..

but at least give me the option to reset any craft or gatherer to 0.. cause in all honestly I would.. it would be a ton easier.. even better for the local levequest count as well, since I could start them all over with just leves.. and no I am not going to make a new char for the sake of crafting/gathering since, I have invested alot of time in my char, nearly all quests completed , one more DoW to 50 to have all 50's .. I enjoy this game but.. in all honestly the gathering/crafting Achievements should be a total accumalitive amount not based on node levels and craft recipe levels..

Id rather have a system where you gather 6000 nodes anywhere.. If I want that certain item from that area I will go there.. don't force me..

[DeadRiser]

No one said you HAVE to get the achievements.

If you are a gatherer, your going to gather in those areas eventually, just a liitle more than you used to.
Crafting, same rules apply.

I mean sounds like a bunch of " I want -said- achievement now*...

[TheVedis]

No one said you HAVE to get the achievements.

If you are a gatherer, your going to gather in those areas eventually, just a liitle more than you used to.
Crafting, same rules apply.

I mean sounds like a bunch of " I want -said- achievement now*...

this is exactly how i think

like right now im out gathering the low grades....
everything i get, ill use to go back for crafting, etc etc

its not like i leveled those jobs so they can sit and never be used after all

[Xenor]

The achievements are nice in theory but they have implemented it so badly. The only people getting these will be people who bot and people who have their crafts at rank 1. It was bad enough levelling crafts legitimately while half the server was botting them to begin with, I'm not going to effectively level them all again while half the server bots these achievements. Unfortunately this is one advantage the botter has over me that I can't compete with. They will have the tools and no legit player is going to go through this torturous gameplay to get them.

There's basic calculations that they could have done to give some counter for players who have already got their classes at 50. For example if you have gotten your BSM to 50 let's say you've done total EXP total 1-10 / 500 = 1-10 synths, EXP total 11-20/500 - 11-20 synths etc. There's no need to just hand the achievements to people but some basic maths could have given credit for what we have already done, at a minimum. If it only gets me half way to the achievement that's fair.

I will just screw the achievements and wait for the rank cap to go up, which it probably will in 1.21. Hopefully the rank 60 tools won't require these achievements in addition to the 50-60 achievement. I fear they will. These achievements are encouraging botting.

Why couldn't they have made the achievements something more fun/skillful like produce 100 +3 synths or produce a full set of +3 gear? Oh wait, they dumbed down the HQ system. The only skill in crafting now is finding a bot that won't be obvious to passers by.

[Irondude]

1-50 in a day but you wont be getting that god gear any time soon MAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Giant]

its just a a new 'Time-Sink" ... no fun for who already 50s, it is fun for who is lv1

This is another reason why I love SE )))