Luminary tools- a real achievement

[Giant]

To me as a player who got all classes to 50, it feels like SE wiped my data. No different for me if I have the number 50 above my head or not as long as am about to do it all over again.

The "achievement" not for everyone, somehow this is true. But if it was exist before I level up my char, I could have got it while leveling it. The new players or people who are level 1 will get it too, even if they hate that job ( gathering / crafting ) ... and no one will tell them they are not for you :-(

It is like what "captainpicard" said:-

".... it appears SE doesn't value my progress to this date. Yet again taking a giant dump on existing players."

This is SE first step on achievement, let see when they add more achievement that touch DoW progress

They are brilliant, they'll add achievement to kill 1k mobs lv1~10, 5k mobs lv11~20 ..... 100k mobs lv41~50

[Orophin]

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They are brilliant, they'll add achievement to kill 1k mobs lv1~10, 5k mobs lv11~20 ..... 100k mobs lv41~50

There's already an achievement to kill x amount of monsters, so I doubt it.

[TheVedis]

There's already an achievement to kill x amount of monsters, so I doubt it.

alot of people dont realize there was an achievment system before the one in game
and they just added to it, so all these are new achievments

these people are just in denial and mad cuz they are the "gimme" crowd

im all 50s too and im more then willing to go back, hell as ive said before, i expetced to have to redo pretty much ALL of the achievments, im glad i dont have to, but i was a realist

[Giant]

alot of people dont realize there was an achievment system before the one in game
and they just added to it, so all these are new achievments

these people are just in denial and mad cuz they are the "gimme" crowd

im all 50s too and im more then willing to go back, hell as ive said before, i expetced to have to redo pretty much ALL of the achievments, im glad i dont have to, but i was a realist

Hello, TheVedis

if you want to re-do it, that doesn't make you wrong or bad
if I don't want to re-do it, that doesn't make me wrong too

Even if SE ask us to re-do it 100 times, some will go and do it, others may don't like it ... its matter of taste to love/hate things

Where is the fun to re do the same things 50 times or 10 times or twice? We suppose to play to have fun. Let see how many people will be upset if SE wiped char data at 2.0 release?
We'll see people who'll come and here and say "Thank SE for doing this" and we'll see "Get Lost SE"

I'm not here to tell people who like this achievement that they are wrong, not at all. I'am here to tell SE what I do NOT like

Thank you ^-^/

[TheVedis]

Hello, TheVedis

if you want to re-do it, that doesn't make you wrong or bad
if I don't want to re-do it, that doesn't make me wrong too

Even if SE ask us to re-do it 100 times, some will go and do it, others may don't like it ... its matter of taste to love/hate things

Where is the fun to re do the same things 50 times or 10 times or twice? We suppose to play to have fun. Let see how many people will be upset if SE wiped char data at 2.0 release?
We'll see people who'll come and here and say "Thank SE for doing this" and we'll see "Get Lost SE"

I'm not here to tell people who like this achievement that they are wrong, not at all. I'am here to tell SE what I do NOT like

Thank you ^-^/

the thing is

we arent redoing anything(well we may be doing some of it over if you want to count actualsynth numbers i guess)

but pretty much almost NO ONE earned these while grinding to 50, a few pages back someone did some math on how they were leveling, and it showed some hard numbers
when i went back and did some math i came to similar results

while you may not have had to do it all over if it was retroctive, you probly would still be doiung 50% of the crafting achievments again easily, and well over 70% of the gathering ones



in the end, we all knew it was going to happen, people just chose to be blind to it until they saw it in game, several of us had been talking about having to redo stuff for months because SE originaly came out and said NOTHING was retroactive in the achievment system

that would have been the best time to voice opinions, yet alot of people just ignored it


add in the fact there was NO WAY to track it back then, and you have what you have, if anything, the fault of the system lies with the original way things were tracked, and how this wasnt one of them



but at the end of the day, people who enjoy crafting and gathering will have no problem doing these axchievments, the main complainers are those who DO NOT LIKE CRAFTING OR GATHERING AT ALL and got 50 and dont wanna touch them again

[Giant]

the thing is

we arent redoing anything(well we may be doing some of it over if you want to count actualsynth numbers i guess)

but pretty much almost NO ONE earned these while grinding to 50, a few pages back someone did some math on how they were leveling, and it showed some hard numbers
when i went back and did some math i came to similar results

while you may not have had to do it all over if it was retroctive, you probly would still be doiung 50% of the crafting achievments again easily, and well over 70% of the gathering ones



in the end, we all knew it was going to happen, people just chose to be blind to it until they saw it in game, several of us had been talking about having to redo stuff for months because SE originaly came out and said NOTHING was retroactive in the achievment system

that would have been the best time to voice opinions, yet alot of people just ignored it


add in the fact there was NO WAY to track it back then, and you have what you have, if anything, the fault of the system lies with the original way things were tracked, and how this wasnt one of them



but at the end of the day, people who enjoy crafting and gathering will have no problem doing these axchievments, the main complainers are those who DO NOT LIKE CRAFTING OR GATHERING AT ALL and got 50 and dont wanna touch them again

ok, I do not like crafting/gathering and NewPlayer2346 just joined today and he do not like crafting/gathering too

after while ....

He'll be 50s on all crafting/gathering
I'm 50s too

He hate crafting/gathering, I hate it too

He got that achievement, but I did not get it.

just because he is "a new customer" and I'm "an old customer"

if SE want to be fair enough for everyone, should have made it "Get to 50 first, then start getting this achievement after that"

I hope you got my point

Thank you again ^-^

[TheVedis]

ok, I do not like crafting/gathering and NewPlayer2346 just joined today and he do not like crafting/gathering too

after while ....

He'll be 50s on all crafting/gathering
I'm 50s too

He hate crafting/gathering, I hate it too

He got that achievement, but I did not get it.

just because he is "a new customer" and I'm "an old customer"

if SE want to be fair enough for everyone, should have made it "Get to 50 first, then start getting this achievement after that"

I hope you got my point

Thank you again ^-^

actualy, your wrong

he just started, he will hit 50, and NOT have the achievment, because it requires about 30-40% more synthing then you actualy need to cap

yes he will be closer, but he will still not have it, and he wont ever get it because since he dislikes it just like you, he wont bother trying to finish it

[Jinko]

It's kind of a interesting way to try stimulate the creation of lower level item's and gear from those who would other wise not bother.

That or i have finally lost what sanity i have making low end gemstones and ingots.

I don't think making base materials like ingots, cloth and leather is really stimulating the economy, if you had said flooding then yea I would have agreed.

if SE want to be fair enough for everyone, should have made it "Get to 50 first, then start getting this achievement after that"

This makes much more sense, seeing as the item is level 50 anyway, I doubt anyone would have complained if they were level 50 and had to go out and grind on grade 5 nodes.

[Victor]

actualy, your wrong

he just started, he will hit 50, and NOT have the achievment, because it requires about 30-40% more synthing then you actualy need to cap

yes he will be closer, but he will still not have it, and he wont ever get it because since he dislikes it just like you, he wont bother trying to finish it

I've taken a look at your progress so far and you have yet to hit the plateau that will destroy your ambition. Picture a pool with a shallow and a deep end, or better yet, a lake where the point when the depth drops is sudden and immense. That's sort of what these achievements are like. There are alot of easy ones to keep you busy for a little while, fooling you into thinking you can do this. But once you hit that drop, the achievements become so vast in demand that your focus becomes skewed and defeat rears its ugly head. I'm approaching this point at the moment and it's not pleasant. I think maybe you will have a clearer idea of why there is so much backlash against this once you reach that point.

[rocky]

the thing is

we arent redoing anything(well we may be doing some of it over if you want to count actualsynth numbers i guess)

but pretty much almost NO ONE earned these while grinding to 50, a few pages back someone did some math on how they were leveling, and it showed some hard numbers
when i went back and did some math i came to similar results

while you may not have had to do it all over if it was retroctive, you probly would still be doiung 50% of the crafting achievments again easily, and well over 70% of the gathering ones



in the end, we all knew it was going to happen, people just chose to be blind to it until they saw it in game, several of us had been talking about having to redo stuff for months because SE originaly came out and said NOTHING was retroactive in the achievment system

that would have been the best time to voice opinions, yet alot of people just ignored it


add in the fact there was NO WAY to track it back then, and you have what you have, if anything, the fault of the system lies with the original way things were tracked, and how this wasnt one of them



but at the end of the day, people who enjoy crafting and gathering will have no problem doing these axchievments, the main complainers are those who DO NOT LIKE CRAFTING OR GATHERING AT ALL and got 50 and dont wanna touch them again

1 thing after saw u spam so many post.
just stand out and say i didnt use any BOT or other help to get all these lvl 50, i just push the button 1by1 to get all lvl 50.
and i will click those buttons again.

the only person who not complained these DOL DOH achievement design is person who use BOOOOOOOOOT.