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  1. #261
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    R51+ recipies count to the r41-50 total. A guy in my LS checked his total, crafted a few r52 rank recipies and his 41-50 total increased by that number of synths.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magnesium02 View Post
    R51+ recipies count to the r41-50 total. A guy in my LS checked his total, crafted a few r52 rank recipies and his 41-50 total increased by that number of synths.
    ok, good to know then

    but with that reasoning lets remember they also give more exp per synth so youll keep higher counts of exp per all the way to 50, while this does lower the total synths its not as bad as not getting it at all i guess

    but yeah, fact is youll still come off pretty short of the 3k endmark

  3. #263
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raldo View Post
    In order to get a gathering luminary tool, you need 21,960 gathers.
    Assuming the maximum of 8 attempts per node, that's 2,745 nodes.
    Assuming 3 minutes per node (including walk time), that's 20 nodes per hour.
    Put all that together and you get 137.25 hours of straight gathering. (~5.7 days!)

    Sadly after several days of botany, I am only at 147/2,745 nodes to the luminary hatchet.
    (I count in nodes because it makes the numbers look slightly more reasonable)

    My linkshell could not have disbanded at a more opportune time!
    Does it break down as such?:

    Grade 1: 20 Strikes?
    Grade 2: 300 Strikes
    Grade 3: 1,000 Strikes
    Grade 4: 2,000 Strikes
    Grade 5: 4,000 Strikes

    total = 7,320 per area x3 Main City Areas = 21,960 Strikes for luminary mine (or did i miss something?)

    In any case if you are a prepatch 45+ gatherer planning on doing this to get your luminary item... you will easily get 8 strikes per node which, as Raldo pointed out, equals 2,745 Nodes. Now if you multiply the total strikes by 1 item per strike and devide by 99 items per stack you get 222 Stacks give or take a few... that is A LOT of items.

    Considering that the majority of the grind (2000 Strikes at Grade 4 + 4000 Strikes Grade 5 x3 main cities= 18,000/21,960 strikes) yields either Cobalt, Electrum, and/or Mythril we can apply a 50% drop rate (1 rare ore per 2 strikes) which gives us a nice 18,000/2= 9,000 rare ore/3 rare ore = 3,000 Electrum, Cobalt, and Mythril Ore/100 Ore per stack =30 stacks of each rare ore.

    Thats 30 Stacks Each of Cobalt, Electrum, AND Mythril Ore yielded from HALF of the grade 4 and 5 Strikes. The OTHER half will yield an additional 90 to 180 stacks of items (if you get 1-2 items per strike) being either a number of Rare Gems, Silver, Iron, Alumen and then some....

    3,000 Gil per rare orex100 per stack =300,000 Gil per stack of rare ore x 90 stacks = 27 mil Gil in rare ore

    All of this ore can then be crafted into AT LEAST 10 stacks of EACH Cobalt, Electrum, and Mythril Ingots. And all of these ingots will count towards your Crafting achievements! =P Thats enough for one of the crafting items if you concentrate them all OR you could get 1000 synths towards GSing achievement, 1000 towards Blacksmithing, and 1000 towards Armorer just making the ingots.

    Alternatively 30 stacks of Electrum ore could be converted into nuggets; 30x 99 ore = 3,000/4 ore = 725 synths x12 nuggets per synth = 8910 Electrum nuggets (90 Stacks of Elec Nuggs) /2 nuggets per Dated Electrum Ring = 4455 Electrum Ring Synths... thats WAY more than enough to get your goldsmith from 34-44 (Ring Cap?) AND get you the Goldsmithing lvl 40-50 Cap knocked out.

    You get to kill more than two birds with one stone just getting your Luminary Pickaxe. Those meaphorical birds being the Luminary Pickaxe, Luminary Goldsmithing Hammer, Luminary Armorer and Blacksmithing Items, and LOADS of Weapons, Armor, and Accesories to Spiritbond into materia and attempt multi melds etc... which leads into the Materia and Melding Achievements!

    Need i go on more? The same could be said for Logging and Fishing, except for the fact that there arent as many DoHs dependent upon them as there are upon Miners...

    Happy Holidays and Happy Harvesting and Crafting ^^;
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    Last edited by Matsume; 12-28-2011 at 03:46 PM.

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    @matsune thats all well and nice, but the biggest whiners abvout this are those who went to 50 and dont ever wanna touch the job again

    all the real crafters/gatherers know what the real score is and thats why most of us are not complaining and just getting to work
    its those who only leveled the job to 50 to have it at 50 who care so much

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    @matsune thats all well and nice, but the biggest whiners about this are those who went to 50 and don't ever wanna touch the job again

    all the real crafters/gatherers know what the real score is and thats why most of us are not complaining and just getting to work
    its those who only leveled the job to 50 to have it at 50 who care so much
    yes i realize this, i got mining to 44 before patch ._. but you know as well as i do that the patch ALSO reduced the drop rate of cobalt and electrum from 2-3 per strike to 1 such as the mythril. So all of these so called whiners complaining about not getting their strikes have been in a way compensated by an increase in drop for electrum and cobalt.

    Believe you me I was not the only one to have lvld mining from 40-44 in the two-three days before patch came out so as to gather an obscene amount of cobalt and electrum before nerf. Thats a least 1500 lvl 40-50 strikes i will not get credit for, but the ore was very much worth it.
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  6. #266
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    It's nice to see some jobless people working towards this 24/7 legitimately, but I guarantee 99% of people running around with these tools will bot them. I've no intention of botting so the tools can go make love to themselves. If I gained some credit from my 50 jobs I'd at least have the motivation to finish them off. It's a complete waste to do them on a class that is at 50, anyone who disagrees is incapable of logical thinking. You'd be far better off creating a new character and doing them there so that you have two characters with every class at 50. You could then RMT your first character when they have value.

    At the end of the day these tools will be worthless by the time you get them because the level cap will probably go up to 60 in 1.21. Not to mention a shiny gathering tool is useless to begin with. At 50 you can gather in weathered gear and get the same items from a grade 5 node as a guy geared up with a shiny hammer and proper gear. The only tools worth it are CRP/TAN/WEA/GSM/BSM/ARM and even then I can live without. I can craft anything with ease at 50 and they're dumbing down the HQ system so extra craftmanship or whatever won't help.

    Keep wasting your time.
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  7. #267
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xenor View Post
    It's nice to see some jobless people working towards this 24/7 legitimately, but I guarantee 99% of people running around with these tools will bot them. I've no intention of botting so the tools can go make love to themselves. If I gained some credit from my 50 jobs I'd at least have the motivation to finish them off. It's a complete waste to do them on a class that is at 50, anyone who disagrees is incapable of logical thinking. You'd be far better off creating a new character and doing them there so that you have two characters with every class at 50. You could then RMT your first character when they have value.

    At the end of the day these tools will be worthless by the time you get them because the level cap will probably go up to 60 in 1.21. Not to mention a shiny gathering tool is useless to begin with. At 50 you can gather in weathered gear and get the same items from a grade 5 node as a guy geared up with a shiny hammer and proper gear. The only tools worth it are CRP/TAN/WEA/GSM/BSM/ARM and even then I can live without. I can craft anything with ease at 50 and they're dumbing down the HQ system so extra craftmanship or whatever won't help.

    Keep wasting your time.
    This. The only thing I'll add is that it appears SE doesn't value my progress to this date. Yet again taking a giant dump on existing players.
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  8. #268
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xenor View Post
    At the end of the day these tools will be worthless by the time you get them because the level cap will probably go up to 60 in 1.21. Not to mention a shiny gathering tool is useless to begin with. At 50 you can gather in weathered gear and get the same items from a grade 5 node as a guy geared up with a shiny hammer and proper gear. The only tools worth it are CRP/TAN/WEA/GSM/BSM/ARM and even then I can live without. I can craft anything with ease at 50 and they're dumbing down the HQ system so extra craftmanship or whatever won't help.

    Keep wasting your time.
    1. You CAN'T get the same results in Weathered Gears as you can in decent gears for your level. I learned this when I equipped a different gathering vest (sub-optimal) on my body thinking, 'Hey, while I'm out here chopping 1000's of trees, why not Spiritbond some stuff?' My rank 42 BTN dropped from being able to do 5 chops per grade 5 node to 3.
    2. I really doubt we're getting a level cap increase anytime pre 2.0.
    3. It is NOT that hard or impractical to get any of these tools if you actually are a gatherer/crafter. If however you just like having classes at rank 50 then yes, these are not the achievements for you. (A real gather or crafter will still of course take a bit of time to gain these tools BUT, they will work towards them naturally doing something they were doing anyway.)
    4. Advertising that it is better to sell your character than actually play it probably isn't the wisest thing to do on SE's FFXIV forums...even if the forum reps are on vacation.
    5. They are called Achievements for a reason...if everyone could have it and it was easy to get, what is the point?

    6. Lastly, there are different ways of going about this that seem less grindy and more practical. So far, my BTN has made decent money selling the stuff I've gathered making the time I've spent harvesting worth a decent amount of gil...like so decent I'd go chop those nodes I don't even get exp for now even if I didn't get an achievement for it. Others have been using the mats they get doing there DOL to grind/level their DOH.
    I got the first level of achievements done for my rank 50 CUL yesterday (I made some stacks of crafting food my rank 23 CRP can use). However since CUL gets new recipes with patch 1.21, I am waiting until I have new, fun recipes to work with to earn my golden frypan. But as a CUL I usually need to make low-mid level recipes to make the ingrediants I need for higher ranked synths. By making my own lower level mats to craft higher ranked food items, I'm again earning credits in more achievement slots AND lining my pockets with gil (or at least saving some).
    And again, this is work/crafting I usually did anyway. Which goes back to 'if you think it's that much of a chore, then you really weren't a dedicated gatherer/crafter anyway and these aren't the tools for you.'
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    Last edited by Kinseykinz; 12-29-2011 at 12:40 AM.

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    Which goes back to 'if you think it's that much of a chore, then you really weren't a dedicated gatherer/crafter anyway and these aren't the tools for you.'
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    Orophin Calmcacil
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xenor View Post
    It's nice to see some jobless people working towards this 24/7 legitimately, but I guarantee 99% of people running around with these tools will bot them.
    It irritates me when I see someone with an obvious bot. I roll up near this guy fishing last night and he constantly jigs in the middle EVERY cast. My log shows the only fish he's catching are the ones you can only catch in that jig spot. At least there are some more complex ones to where if you don't catch it in one spot it moves to another.

    /sigh
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