How are Tanks holding up from PLD WAR DRK

[Yurihyuga]

I have not had any issue with war except of course removing flash kinda makes levelling harsh on tp. For bosses have no problem doing a normal unchained pull and then switching to deliverance and holding agro. One thing I have noticed is my old BiS since we pretty much avoided parry like the plague with raid gear when I hit the 65 dungeon the trash start to hit like god damn trucks so started to change my gear with a mix of 66 and 64 gear with now 998 tenacity and plan to run the dungeon again to see how much better it feels. So War feels fine as is atm and hoping it gets better at 70, just required a little adjusting at the beginning, still annoyed can't infuriate pre pull though so goodbye 60s raid pull.

Also guys remember tenacity is a thing now, if you feel squishy might mean you just need more tenacity.

[Reynhart]

Bigger personal tanks damage lead to easier enmity control -> more DPS stance uptime, more help with DPS checks and phase skipping. In the end its always about who can bring more DPS via personal damage and/or party damage buffs and just enough mitigation to survive.

Yes, and I'm still convinced that Intervention, Cover and Passage Of Arms as an OT can increase DPS-stance uptime even more for the MT to compensate for PLD's lower DPS output.

Especially if, as suggested, Divine Veil is changed to be an Oath Action with its CD reduced drastically.

[Leigaon]

Warrior is loads of fun.

People are mentioning feeling squishy...remember we're in leveling content and not overgearing stuff by 10 to 30 levels anymore...

Most of my dungeons so far I'm level synced and noticing the same thing. Did a HW dungeon in the early 50's and I noticed my HP going down and the healer using a bit more heals on me. I am brand new to tanking overall so I am not trying old tricks in a new trade. I took up WAR b/c everyone said it was going to be horrible, I may just jump to DRK after this after what people are saying.

The only thing I can compare to now vs then is hate. I never had any real hate issues and really just zombie through dungeon roulettes for tomes. Now, even synced I have to do a bit more. I may not be doing optimal DPS rotations or whatever but so far with my playstyle the dungeons haven't felt to go on any longer as if I was doing it on White Mage.

I am enjoying toggling between hate generation moves, damage reduction etc.. I haven't had many TP issues but if I do it's not impossible for me to get a goad or a tactician for the few occasions I needed it. I know "You shouldn't need it" this might be true, then just means that it's me and not the job. So I need help, and since I did I asked for it. Luckily some players didn't give me the "you don't pay my sub" and threw me some TP, and we kept on trucking.

[Xerxus___]

Glad to hear from you all, and u your opinion about Tanks. Seems like we have to wait till 4.1 or 4.2? For a better update? Have the feeling its still experimental work going on here so I hope all Tanks get more of a rebalance patch.

[Nuclearducky]

Glad to hear from you all, and u your opinion about Tanks. Seems like we have to wait till 4.1 or 4.2? For a better update? Have the feeling its still experimental work going on here so I hope all Tanks get more of a rebalance patch.

Hoping we don't have to wait for that long, considering x.1 patches come out a few months after x.0?

Given the state of tanks and healers, no wonder why people are jumping ship to DPS by the boatload.

[bswpayton]

Hoping we don't have to wait for that long, considering x.1 patches come out a few months after x.0?

Given the state of tanks and healers, no wonder why people are jumping ship to DPS by the boatload.

For me Its very hard to play dps right now , with every que sayin it will be 30 mins are more, even if I was upset with the tanks playin a dps just doesnt even seem like an option

[Xerxus___]

Yeah i noticed in alot of pf, I see alot of missing tanks like they literally signalising (no this is not what we tanks wantes, this is not what we waited for 2 years) I stopped War as I have been tanking now about 11 years. So Sam and Nin are my main focus now. I just hope we tanks get more in return in future patches.

[konpachizaraki]

Glad to hear from you all, and u your opinion about Tanks. Seems like we have to wait till 4.1 or 4.2? For a better update? Have the feeling its still experimental work going on here so I hope all Tanks get more of a rebalance patch.

most likely 4.1, i don't think they have balls to anger people for more than 6 months
though for me i believe they will only make significant changes by 5.0

[Xerxus___]

most likely 4.1, i don't think they have balls to anger people for more than 6 months
though for me i believe they will only make significant changes by 5.0

I agree, SB is bringing in money they cant afford to lose players due to job specification failure, as some did literally cancel their subscription due to now having the class as certain people Imagined or hoped.

[Synestra]

I have to DA power Slash a few times on bosses to make sure that I wont lose aggro to them.

Did you check how much enmity you generated with that? i noticed yesterday that doing single RoH combo in a tank stance gave HUGE amount of enmity, SAM was like 10% off pulling hate but one combo cut that enmity bar almost in half.