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    Kyt's Avatar
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    Kyt Tundera
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    Lamia
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Crankeh View Post
    Struggling to get the feel for any changes there might be in PLD rotation.Doesn't seem too much different overall. Trying to find ways to fit the new abilities in.
    The new paladin rotation is pretty awesome honestly, and it has changed quite a bit. For trash pulls with 3+ mobs it's still the standard scorn flash then the new aoe ability a couple times, rotate between mobs doing halone combos so you don't lose threat, but for single target and bosses we have a 2 phase dps system now where you start the fight scorn, spirits within, 1 halone combo and then you hit requiescat into dumping your entire MP pool via holy spirit (5 casts) - you CAN swap to sword oath and pop a ramparte or something here for higher dps but if you're doing current content probably not the best idea. Then your downtime is riot blade combo and shelltron to regain mana before requiescat comes back up. Rinse and repeat. You don't have requiescat yet but it's essentially the same.
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    Crankeh's Avatar
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    Crankeh Belvoure
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    Midgardsormr
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyt View Post
    The new paladin rotation is pretty awesome honestly, and it has changed quite a bit. For trash pulls with 3+ mobs it's still the standard scorn flash then the new aoe ability a couple times, rotate between mobs doing halone combos so you don't lose threat, but for single target and bosses we have a 2 phase dps system now where you start the fight scorn, spirits within, 1 halone combo and then you hit requiescat into dumping your entire MP pool via holy spirit (5 casts) - you CAN swap to sword oath and pop a ramparte or something here for higher dps but if you're doing current content probably not the best idea. Then your downtime is riot blade combo and shelltron to regain mana before requiescat comes back up. Rinse and repeat. You don't have requiescat yet but it's essentially the same.
    Thank you for this. I will try your suggestions out this evening and see how that goes. ^^
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    Sundracon's Avatar
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    Nimtolien Morohtar
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    Jenova
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    Paladin Lv 66
    Paladin <3
    lvl64 is gamechanging

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyt View Post
    The new paladin rotation is pretty awesome honestly... we have a 2 phase dps system now where you start the fight scorn, spirits within, 1 halone combo and then you hit requiescat into dumping your entire MP pool via holy spirit (5 casts) - you CAN swap to sword oath and pop a ramparte or something here for higher dps but if you're doing current content probably not the best idea. Then your downtime is riot blade combo and shelltron to regain mana before requiescat comes back up. Rinse and repeat. You don't have requiescat yet but it's essentially the same.
    ^this
    Holy Spirit burn of paladin is great. But I would say to to use Sheltron every 2 Holy Spirits(+20 oath each in tank stance) to help mana.

    It has become a style in which you have to watch the threat gauge and adjust accordingly as well as managing your mana/oath gauge.
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    Dezee Redwolf
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    Coeurl
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    Warrior Lv 70
    From my experience which isn't much said the toad by the fire DRK are not the same but WAR are fun at least to me tbh. Dark have alot of unnecessary moves like "dude who invited this guy?" type of moves Took the level i believe 50 move and gave it back with the same name like nothing happen at 62!! If that's not a kick in the balls I don't know what is lol.
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    Kane Blackstone
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    Ultros
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Dezee View Post
    From my experience which isn't much said the toad by the fire DRK are not the same but WAR are fun at least to me tbh. Dark have alot of unnecessary moves like "dude who invited this guy?" type of moves Took the level i believe 50 move and gave it back with the same name like nothing happen at 62!! If that's not a kick in the balls I don't know what is lol.
    Delirium is key to building Blackblood.

    The "what do I do with this?" skill is now Dark Passenger.
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    Yurihyuga's Avatar
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    Valous Voakes
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    I can say now for sure tenacity helps, with 1.1k tenacity felt a lot less squishy and definitely felt I needed to do less overpowers to hold agro which has made tanking dungeons more enjoyable as I can focus on filling the gauge and going deliverence to pop decimate.
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    Awful Name
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    Faerie
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Yurihyuga View Post
    I can say now for sure tenacity helps, with 1.1k tenacity felt a lot less squishy and definitely felt I needed to do less overpowers to hold agro which has made tanking dungeons more enjoyable as I can focus on filling the gauge and going deliverence to pop decimate.
    I friggen LOVE tenacity it's probably my new favorite stat, just hit 70 tonight and I have like 1250 of it gonna try to finish the MSQ tonight and tackle the dungeons and tome grinding tomorrow.

    In retrospect to Drk when i posted earlier as I was leveling Blackblood was fun to learn how to use, then when I hit 70 I noticed TBN is very complex and can be used in many situations it makes Drk feel busy all the time which is something that I love I'm always constantly spending my Blackblood and MP balancing them it's never been more fun, I honestly don't miss old Drk it was fun while it lasted but the new Drk i can't put down.
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    Last edited by Awful; 06-20-2017 at 12:30 PM.

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    Dizzy_Derp's Avatar
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    Dizzy Dash
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    Gilgamesh
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Yurihyuga View Post
    I can say now for sure tenacity helps, .
    i can say for sure it does not. in testing the scaling for damage/healing receved/damage reduction from tenacity has shown that 500 tenacity is equal to less that a 1 percent increase. its worse than parry.
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    Age_of_Oblivion's Avatar
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    Aetherius Lune
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 72
    Has anyone been toying with dropping Grit to use Blood Weapon at max level? My main difficulty so far has simply been MP regen, now that BP is... kinda shoddy. Is dropping tank stance for 15s to replenish a viable approach instead?
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    Nuclearducky's Avatar
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    Yuno Loxaerion
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Age_of_Oblivion View Post
    Has anyone been toying with dropping Grit to use Blood Weapon at max level? My main difficulty so far has simply been MP regen, now that BP is... kinda shoddy. Is dropping tank stance for 15s to replenish a viable approach instead?
    If you feel safe enough to do it, blood weapon, delirium and AD or SE spam is probably your way to go. Make sure you drop a salted earth as well so you can take advantage of that damage bonus.
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