DRK AoE threat in dungeons

[bswpayton]

so with the nerf to unleash does this mean I can do big pulls in any below 50 dungeons

[Eliroth-Kaminari]

im realy struggeling whit enmity in mass pulls because im usto whit 6 mob pulls (2 stack) and issue lately is that abyssal dont generate much enmity to keep up whit Redmage or sammy aoe dps. and when i have done like 4 5 abyssal im out of manna and only mp return is syphon because bloodprice is little more then usless now.

[Rhais]

I wonder how many dps are actually bothering to use the enmity reducing skills they all just got.

[Falgern]

I've already put down DRK, i see no redeemable changes to DRK for what we lost, out overall mitigation and dps was nerfed. We got this shitty new reprisal that took our stuff, we got this shitty version of Dark dance that instead of our own, TBN is useless IMO because every healer can do that in the game for you so on the mitigation front its a net loss.

Do you not understand how amazingly good TBN is? It's our version of Sheltron/Inner Beast. The only time it is worse than Inner Beast is when the attack does MORE than our total health in damage. It's only gated behind one (Grit)Syphon Strike's worth of MP, can be used in any stance.




Getting back on topic;

AOE enmity is a bit iffy and if you start a fight with low mp you will have problems. It's all about being efficient with your MP right now and not waste any. Quietus helps a lot actually since it does not cost any MP

I wonder how many dps are actually bothering to use the enmity reducing skills they all just got.

Oh and this. If they are not using them just tell them to start using them already. Everyone has an enmity reduction ability of some kind.

[Falar]

I think the threat issue is across the board. On my paladin with a 255 weapon in siren song, 3 flashes and total eclipse spam and I'm having to struggle with aggro in groups

I am still in my full i270 gear (275 weapon) and done the first two dungeons. No one has even come close to me on the threat meter. It just pisses me off how much less MP we have now, they really nerfed big pulls.

Unleash is shit now
Dark Passenger might as well be unbound (I am going to unbind it tonight)
Blood Price gives much less mp, even if you extend it with Delirium
DA-DD is gone

[Gunnie]

I am still in my full i270 gear (275 weapon) and done the first two dungeons. No one has even come close to me on the threat meter. It just pisses me off how much less MP we have now, they really nerfed big pulls.

Unleash is shit now
Dark Passenger might as well be unbound (I am going to unbind it tonight)
Blood Price gives much less mp, even if you extend it with Delirium
DA-DD is gone

I notice I have to use Flash alot of the times, and it just barely keeps up. Using my Rage of Halone combo really pulls that mob far ahead, but AoE wise I get the feeling SE really nerved all 3 tanks.

[Falar]

Not PLD. Total Eclipse finally gives a spammable AoE move to PLD.

[Mnemosynia]

Do you not understand how amazingly good TBN is? It's our version of Sheltron/Inner Beast. The only time it is worse than Inner Beast is when the attack does MORE than our total health in damage. It's only gated behind one (Grit)Syphon Strike's worth of MP, can be used in any stance.




Getting back on topic;

AOE enmity is a bit iffy and if you start a fight with low mp you will have problems. It's all about being efficient with your MP right now and not waste any. Quietus helps a lot actually since it does not cost any MP



Oh and this. If they are not using them just tell them to start using them already. Everyone has an enmity reduction ability of some kind.

Do you think TBN was worth everything that we lost? We have lowest amount of defensive CDs of all the classes we lost more of our skills to role abilities aswell, foresight and bloodbath gone just one the mitigation front and you think TBN can make up for 3 cds?

[Awful]

As I hit 70 and doing all the dungeons I learned to balance my MP and use my CDs while mass pulling to keep my MP up while setting up for Blackblood. Drk now is about thinking ahead and using those powerful CDs in chains in order to keep your MP high and Blackblood high while maintaining threat and honestly it's great, there were a few times I had a DPS just go balls to the walls on an add, all i did was a 1-2 got threat back and continued as normal.

Now I just hit 70 tonight, was gonna finish the story but the instance servers took a massive dump so I can't test TBN but from what I can tell it's going to add complexity to the Drks giving them a strong on demand CD while giving us Blackblood which i'm just giddy on using.

[LalafellDown]

DRK sucks now with the nerfs and skill taken away or changed. Time to go back to WAR?